Intergalactic Summit

I am amazed by the sentiments that I am condemning the Republic here; moreover amazed that I receive such sentiments from pirates and hostiles. Have things really gone so bad that to disagree with Shakor's politics is considered traitorous in its own right? Is speaking against him now the worst crime we can perform?

That said; I will no longer answer personal attacks here. Let's talk about the message, not the messenger.


Nope.


Thank you.


That is indeed a good question and one I already asked in the thread, too. Where are those people? We had no shortage ten years ago, and let me assure you, the loyalists then did not (if I say so myself) just up and pack their bags because someone disagreed with them and said so with no uncertain terms.


Nope to that too.

Also, remember that the Sanmatar came into power at about the same time the Republic's government went into the drain. I am sure rebuilding the Republic's government structure was considered a higher priority than starting a war especially considering the losses sustained by the Elder Fleet.

Not to mention the Emancipation happened, which, while very likely an attempt to politically embarrass the Republic, also opens up the possibility that the Empire is open to a more peaceful method of ending the Republic's long gripe against the Empire. Then throw in the fact that the current Empress was formerly of a servitor bloodline and is also a mercantile power, the likelihood for a peaceful resolution through negotiations and possibly very shady backroom dealings seems to be even greater than ever before.

If anyone think Cat's going to be a leader with a manumission bent, you're not thinking particularly clearly. Her House, political and economical philosophies are no secret to anyone paying a little attention. Much like Khanid, it's far more about the profits and power mongering of the slave trade than any kind of religious duty of 'enlightenment' to those people.

If her views on the subject will matter in the Empire - which is not necessarily the case on any large scale, admittedly - there'll be more slave raids, more vitoxin use and more TCMC use.

On the other hand, this is a far more... practical Empress than the previous one in such regards. Make the price too high to pay and she might be willing to negotiate a solution falling short of a war where the gain can never match the certain losses.

I would remind you that we seem to have lived through the reign of a Sarumite Empress, who literally took the throne atop the bones of an invading Tribal warfleet, and the order to glass Pator did not come.

The war-monger who deposed the one person who the Republic owes it's continued existence to, also came to power. The Defiants are more silent now than ever.

The worst case scenario for the Republic came. And went.

Huge capsuleer paramilitaries (compared to what we have now) used to skirmish and prepare for the day they were called upon to set forth on that final terrible path. That call never really came. Some of those forces still exist now, but I'd put the relative strength of then-to-now at around 5-10% at best.

I can appreciate how no one during this discussion has aped the silly line of "But we are at war!" Anyone who believes it would do well to sign up themselves and see what that 'war' entails. When one side of a conflict regularly switches sides en-masse just to keep up the appearance (and funding) of a conflict, and all sides find it acceptable, then you have your answer. The Pendulum Wars do accomplish one thing though; any true zealot of either side has a place to go and die for their cause in a small fireball, in a tiny ship, alone, and far away from anything of value.

So, "Where is your War"?

It, and those who actually wanted to fight it, were slowly fed into a tiny paper shredder.

Eh, there are those who take the Pendulum Games very seriously, and insist they are a 'real war', and just as soon as they can win that part, their home empire will decide to flaunt CONCORD and set them loose to see that the fed-err.... enemy will be destroyed.

What fears? This is the best possible option we could have gotten, you blithering moron.

That you also have no understanding of what 'liberal' means in the context of the Empire's leaders and how they tend to treat the slave trade, due to the shift in motivation, is also unsurprising I suppose. I truly can not fathom how poorly you understand literally every nation and faction in New Eden and yet feel you should be sharing your staggering amount of stupid in every possible venue you can.

I suggest using your head the way your breeders intended. A blunt instrument to knock down walls and doors with. It'll shame you a great deal less.

...Probably no.

And the most basic understanding of House Tash-Murkon. It is amusing how much faith you put in a house that has none. You do know that TCMC usage outside of the Kingdom is highest in Tash-Murkon territories? And that Tash-Murkon and Khanid have had very close relations since long before the Kingdom was ever invited back to the Privy Council (it was Her Imperial Majesty Catiz that arranged that, afterall)? And that House Tash-Murkon was pushing for escalation in slave taking operations and the war just a few years ago?

Nice to know I am not the only one in the galaxy with complex loyalty issues.

It's generally considered unethical to wage war on a blind man. It's just as unpleasant and unfair as challenging said blind man to a contest in watching grass grow.

A war will come. But it's really impolite to be declaring war now.