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So, where's our war?

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Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#81 - 2017-03-27 18:45:26 UTC
Gwion Achasse wrote:
I'll sit back and wait for the tribals to chuck their first spear and see what happens.

I doubt even the majority of the Minmatar want this war.

No, it's the Amarrian's turn to chuck their spear. We take turns, it's only polite.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.

Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#82 - 2017-03-27 19:12:43 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
Ayallah wrote:
You are basing this an absolutely nothing at all but your own fears.


And the most basic understanding of House Tash-Murkon. It is amusing how much faith you put in a house that has none. You do know that TCMC usage outside of the Kingdom is highest in Tash-Murkon territories? And that Tash-Murkon and Khanid have had very close relations since long before the Kingdom was ever invited back to the Privy Council (it was Her Imperial Majesty Catiz that arranged that, afterall)? And that House Tash-Murkon was pushing for escalation in slave taking operations and the war just a few years ago?

Indeed people should put their faith in a house that gave us Mad Emperor, sprouted a cult that hates every living thing and amongst other great deeds glassed a planet. Also good to know, you don't want to see the Kingdom and the Empire united.
Victoria Grey
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#83 - 2017-03-27 19:18:57 UTC
I still believe in the Sanmatar. When he came into power I saw hope.

With that intro statement out of the way I have to admit that this topic stirs up many emotions and thoughts and I am not sure which has the most importance to address. But I'll start with the sentiments on the current affairs in the republic, move on to the state of Matari Loyalists from my point of view, and finally into where our war is at with thoughts on our Sanmatar.

So on the Republic and how it fairs at the current moment. I see opinions on here ranging from that the Republic is in extreme disrepair all the way to its economy booming for the past decade. Honestly, the reality is not as simple as any answer on that scale. Economically we are doing quite well with infrastructure continuing to rise and build. We have some of the brightest minds working in all fields. At the same time, there are still lingering instability issues as we try reorganize our space to re-include our brothers and sisters in the Thukker, Nefantar, and Starkmanir tribes. Reports of the transitions seem to be stable, but slow seeing many challenges but overall the transition seems to be going well. but again, slow and complicated. So I would not classify the Republic as either wholly suffering or unopposed booming in success but rather comparable in strength (economic, military, and otherwise) to our neighbors in Empire space.

As for the Matari Loyalists, this subject hits a sore spot for me as a past member of Ushra'Khan. I still believe that our numbers, Matari Loyalists that is, are great as is our strength. And I have a lot of pride that I flew with my brothers and sisters in Ushra'Khan before starting a modest independent exploration career. That said, I believe there are two faults to us and they are quite separate and not related to each other:

1. We are so spread out, the relative peace has lead many to pursuing non-republic related ventures. (Such as my tenure in benign exploration, I am also at fault for this).
2. The Pendulum Wars.

The second point is the primary sore spot for me, it is my belief that the pendulum wars have distracted us from truly growing. That said, I haven't participated since leaving Ushra'Khan but from the outside, it seems that pendulum seems pointless with no gains for us. I believe so many of us saw the pendulum wars as clear entry for our warriors to sink their teeth into the slaver's asses but with negligible gains in our goal of freeing our brothers and sisters, our numbers dwindled and today the once great and feared alliances are footnotes hardly spoken of.

Lastly, the point of this thread: the Sanmatar and the war. To reiterate my intro statement, I have always seen Sanmatar Shakor as hope. He is everything that the Republic needs to free our brethren in chains. Yes he is a warrior and yes he became Sanmatar on his views. But that is not what will (solely at least) free our people. What is important is that he is cunning. I believe he knows when to strike and how. I do believe that freeing the slaves remains high on his priorities but I also believe that he is playing the long game.

I don't know how he plans to do it, but I believe in him and I wait for the call and all the while do what I can to personally make a dent. So as a final statement to end this, do not give up Hope. The war is coming even if we do not know what form it takes.
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#84 - 2017-03-30 18:48:55 UTC
No war.
Shakorites go home.

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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#85 - 2017-03-30 18:56:41 UTC
Luna Hanaya wrote:
No war.
Shakorites go home.

I believe they all mostly already did. Big smile
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#86 - 2017-03-30 18:58:47 UTC
I will pray for them to stay there!

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Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#87 - 2017-03-31 00:15:13 UTC
You'd better pray we don't come your way little Kim sock puppet.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Oland Jan
Doomheim
#88 - 2017-03-31 00:39:57 UTC
I won't say much. I live in the Federation now and call her home, so I don't think it right to do so. I know Karin Midular's government was unpopular and even corrupt. But she was a good woman with an honest desire for peace. I remember her and thank her for her service.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#89 - 2017-03-31 01:30:25 UTC
Oland Jan wrote:
I won't say much. I live in the Federation now and call her home, so I don't think it right to do so. I know Karin Midular's government was unpopular and even corrupt. But she was a good woman with an honest desire for peace. I remember her and thank her for her service.


No matter what she did, leaving the physical realm at the hands of a bigot assassin on a distant world is no way to go. May her spirit find Andesh, regardless of what had happened to her.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Agiri Falken
Akagi Initiative
#90 - 2017-03-31 02:28:57 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Oland Jan wrote:
I won't say much. I live in the Federation now and call her home, so I don't think it right to do so. I know Karin Midular's government was unpopular and even corrupt. But she was a good woman with an honest desire for peace. I remember her and thank her for her service.


No matter what she did, leaving the physical realm at the hands of a bigot assassin on a distant world is no way to go. May her spirit find Andesh, regardless of what had happened to her.

I don't care who you are... If you were decent, you shed some tears that day. There were a lot of reasons to.
Diana Kim
Kenshin Katana.
United Caldari Space Command.
#91 - 2017-03-31 14:22:53 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
You'd better pray we don't come your way little Kim sock puppet.

Why is this tribal so obsessed about me?
Well, sure, come my way, if you dare, I'll gladly make an example out of you.


I am sort of sick of cowards, barking at me from behind NeoCom screens. If you have something against me and our State - then come here and say it to my face (or my ship), stop making a clown out of yourself for whole IGS.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#92 - 2017-03-31 14:28:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Utari Onzo
Out of purely a grim curiousity, what should people do if they only have a problem with you and not the State? Do the same rules apply Ms Kim? Do other ones apply? Inquiring (and somewhat bored and time rich) minds need to know!

For that matter, what about only a problem with the State and not you?

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#93 - 2017-03-31 14:40:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
Can I kindly ask this thread will not be turned into another debate whether circumstances exist in which Diana Kim should not be murdered? Because I am really, really not convinced we need another one, and I am trying to talk about the Republic (and, ok, well, a little bit about the Empire), here.
Diana Kim
Kenshin Katana.
United Caldari Space Command.
#94 - 2017-03-31 14:41:41 UTC
I am only a soldier of Caldari State, Mr. Onzo! My life belongs to Caldari State, my ships were built to protect Caldari State. Everything I do, I do for the State, everything my kill I dedicate to Caldari State.

If people have problems with the State, they can expect to find me on the battlefield with guns hot and safeties removed.

If they have problem with just me (can it be at all?), they, of course, can always contact me and we will solve it easily and diplomatically. If they have a serious grudge, I am open to challenges to fight, if they just want to fight me and not the State. It can be done in an honorable manner, so they can satiate their anger and hatred towards me.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#95 - 2017-03-31 14:43:21 UTC
Look, a whole thread about Kim! Go there! Have fun!

This thread does not concern her or the State.
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#96 - 2017-03-31 14:43:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Utari Onzo
I didn't ask under what circumstances Ms Kim should be murdered because I don't wish to murder her. I was attempting some dry humour that went over your head it seems.

I still really want to know the correct proceedure in either of the two cases so I'd love a reply by mail Ms Kim.

Edit: never mind, I got my reply. Curiosity satisfied.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Diana Kim
Kenshin Katana.
United Caldari Space Command.
#97 - 2017-03-31 14:44:15 UTC
I agree, please excuse me, Ms. Rhainnon. Unfortunately it seems some people like to invoke me into conversation and discuss me instead. I don't like this policy and would like to call out Anabella Rella for this behavior.

Also, Mr. Onzo, I've given you the answer, but please ask it next time in a private mail or in a separate thread, okay?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#98 - 2017-03-31 16:30:08 UTC
The Reclaiming as I know it has been stemmed by Republic Forces after the Empire foolishly attacked the Jove.

And the Elder Fleet was stopped by the Imperial Navy. I can this more than even.

I don't see the need to continue the provocation of one side or the other when there are bigger threats out. Specifically the Kyonoke threat that endangers all factions.

I have a tremendous respect for the Matari people and the suffering at the Imperial hands.

But if there were to be an invasion of Imperial Space where I make my home. Then I will gladly meet you in battle.

Currently the Empire and the Republic are not at adds. Let's not be the ones to escalate this.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#99 - 2017-03-31 16:33:00 UTC
Sorry Else but I think some stiff-necked little troll doth protest too much. I never mentioned "her" directly; I was replying to "her" sock puppet's post.

As to it's hollow threat; if it wants a fight so badly I'm easy to find.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Kolodi Ramal
Sanxing Yi
#100 - 2017-03-31 16:33:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Kolodi Ramal
They still have a third of our people enslaved, Ms. Leshrac.