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Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#481 - 2012-08-01 20:28:35 UTC
I'm assuming there's some sort of information control thing going on here where CCP wants to have a steady pace of devblog releases, rather than throwing out a massive pile of them now and then having nothing to say next month. Since WiS development is a long term, low-intensity development process and there's really nothing being released for a while, the WiS blog gets bumped down the schedule, to make way for articles which need to be released urgently as they discuss things imminently coming out in the next patch or which are available to try out on Sisi already (as the last few blogs have been).

I expect it'll be out after the Inferno 1.2 release when CCP need to fill a quiet patch.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#482 - 2012-08-01 22:03:45 UTC
I shall sit here and cry till then................cry

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships
Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#483 - 2012-08-01 22:06:56 UTC
Too bad there was not a kick starter program for wis.

Allow people to put there money where their mouth is.
We would find out how much push there is for wis

Just a dumb idea to shoot around......

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#484 - 2012-08-02 06:43:46 UTC
Gevlin wrote:
Too bad there was not a kick starter program for wis.

Allow people to put there money where their mouth is.
We would find out how much push there is for wis

Just a dumb idea to shoot around......


I already thought about it but probably wouldn't work; it would be a kind of a bad precedent.

(But then after the CSM election, for a couple of weeks I fantasized with the idea of financing a CSM so he could travel to Iceland on my expenses -which i would ask to recover from player donations-, if CCP was willing to have a WiS-sponsored 8th guest in the CSM meeting. Was just some speculation on how to deliver a strong message and have our voice listened to, but i eventually decided that it all was a bit crazy, and also Issler misfired as a "WiS candidate")

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Ghazu
#485 - 2012-08-03 19:35:42 UTC
heh bump

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Lost True
Perkone
Caldari State
#486 - 2012-08-04 13:49:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Lost True
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Gevlin wrote:
Too bad there was not a kick starter program for wis.

Allow people to put there money where their mouth is.
We would find out how much push there is for wis

Just a dumb idea to shoot around......


I already thought about it but probably wouldn't work; it would be a kind of a bad precedent.

(But then after the CSM election, for a couple of weeks I fantasized with the idea of financing a CSM so he could travel to Iceland on my expenses -which i would ask to recover from player donations-, if CCP was willing to have a WiS-sponsored 8th guest in the CSM meeting. Was just some speculation on how to deliver a strong message and have our voice listened to, but i eventually decided that it all was a bit crazy, and also Issler misfired as a "WiS candidate")

CSM is just a bunch of 0.0 pilots. I don't expect from them anything new.

I've actually thought about real money investing in the WiS team. And i think i will, if my little project still be alive in summer 2013...

in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?
Soulpirate
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#487 - 2012-08-04 15:19:18 UTC
Gevlin wrote:
Too bad there was not a kick starter program for wis.

Allow people to put there money where their mouth is.
We would find out how much push there is for wis

Just a dumb idea to shoot around......

I proposed such an idea in this thread.

But like Lost True says, it would probably set a bad precedent.

That said I would still pay AUR for that key Pirate
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#488 - 2012-08-04 15:36:35 UTC
Lost True wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Gevlin wrote:
Too bad there was not a kick starter program for wis.

Allow people to put there money where their mouth is.
We would find out how much push there is for wis

Just a dumb idea to shoot around......


I already thought about it but probably wouldn't work; it would be a kind of a bad precedent.

(But then after the CSM election, for a couple of weeks I fantasized with the idea of financing a CSM so he could travel to Iceland on my expenses -which i would ask to recover from player donations-, if CCP was willing to have a WiS-sponsored 8th guest in the CSM meeting. Was just some speculation on how to deliver a strong message and have our voice listened to, but i eventually decided that it all was a bit crazy, and also Issler misfired as a "WiS candidate")

CSM is just a bunch of 0.0 pilots. I don't expect from them anything new.

I've actually thought about real money investing to the WiS team. And i think i will, if my little project still be alive in summer 2013...


So far, I think that there is no way that CCP changes their mind on WiS unless DUST 514 floods them with millions and they can double their staff... and maybe not even that, crowd inertia is a mighty force.

Now, I've been figuring what could be done even if CCP didn't implemented WiS. Question

Theoretically, the right people could edit the client and modify the client side of CQ code to make it load a custom made environment outside of the "door". Likely it would not be possible to create a multiplayer environment running on TQ, but they could implement a limited mutiplayer on a custom P2P network running parallel to the TQ link. This way, some players could have as much 3D environments and WiS as they wanted.

Of course, doing that without CCP consent would be ilegal and completely against the ToS and i don't suggest doing it in any way.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#489 - 2012-08-04 15:48:36 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Lost True wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Gevlin wrote:
Too bad there was not a kick starter program for wis.

Allow people to put there money where their mouth is.
We would find out how much push there is for wis

Just a dumb idea to shoot around......


I already thought about it but probably wouldn't work; it would be a kind of a bad precedent.

(But then after the CSM election, for a couple of weeks I fantasized with the idea of financing a CSM so he could travel to Iceland on my expenses -which i would ask to recover from player donations-, if CCP was willing to have a WiS-sponsored 8th guest in the CSM meeting. Was just some speculation on how to deliver a strong message and have our voice listened to, but i eventually decided that it all was a bit crazy, and also Issler misfired as a "WiS candidate")

CSM is just a bunch of 0.0 pilots. I don't expect from them anything new.

I've actually thought about real money investing to the WiS team. And i think i will, if my little project still be alive in summer 2013...


So far, I think that there is no way that CCP changes their mind on WiS unless DUST 514 floods them with millions and they can double their staff... and maybe not even that, crowd inertia is a mighty force.

Now, I've been figuring what could be done even if CCP didn't implemented WiS. Question

Theoretically, the right people could edit the client and modify the client side of CQ code to make it load a custom made environment outside of the "door". Likely it would not be possible to create a multiplayer environment running on TQ, but they could implement a limited mutiplayer on a custom P2P network running parallel to the TQ link. This way, some players could have as much 3D environments and WiS as they wanted.


But then you truly are into "let's just go play Second Life" territory.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#490 - 2012-08-04 15:58:08 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Lost True wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Gevlin wrote:
Too bad there was not a kick starter program for wis.

Allow people to put there money where their mouth is.
We would find out how much push there is for wis

Just a dumb idea to shoot around......


I already thought about it but probably wouldn't work; it would be a kind of a bad precedent.

(But then after the CSM election, for a couple of weeks I fantasized with the idea of financing a CSM so he could travel to Iceland on my expenses -which i would ask to recover from player donations-, if CCP was willing to have a WiS-sponsored 8th guest in the CSM meeting. Was just some speculation on how to deliver a strong message and have our voice listened to, but i eventually decided that it all was a bit crazy, and also Issler misfired as a "WiS candidate")

CSM is just a bunch of 0.0 pilots. I don't expect from them anything new.

I've actually thought about real money investing to the WiS team. And i think i will, if my little project still be alive in summer 2013...


So far, I think that there is no way that CCP changes their mind on WiS unless DUST 514 floods them with millions and they can double their staff... and maybe not even that, crowd inertia is a mighty force.

Now, I've been figuring what could be done even if CCP didn't implemented WiS. Question

Theoretically, the right people could edit the client and modify the client side of CQ code to make it load a custom made environment outside of the "door". Likely it would not be possible to create a multiplayer environment running on TQ, but they could implement a limited mutiplayer on a custom P2P network running parallel to the TQ link. This way, some players could have as much 3D environments and WiS as they wanted.


But then you truly are into "let's just go play Second Life" territory.


Dunno, never interested myself in that game(?). EVE already provides chances to meet with players, WiS would beef them up.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Lost True
Perkone
Caldari State
#491 - 2012-08-05 02:17:56 UTC
EVE is a sci-fi simulator, not just space strategy...
It's includes walking.

In EVE, as in RL, many people blinded by constant money need.

There is a lot of things that we can do in EVE. But WHAT IF you have enough ISK for the rest of the EVE's life? Well, this is impossible to do in game, because it's designed to keep the players busy(busy, not entertained). But it's possible through $>PLEX, legally.

So the question is: What you will do in this game just because you LIKED IT, not just because it's has some proffit... A few things.
The more real monet you spend for game the less things is there for you to do. Interesting :)

in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?
Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#492 - 2012-08-09 13:24:12 UTC
okay Inferno 1.3 has been released.... do we get to see a WIS dev blog soon.. the CSM minutes got super hot dropped by NDA so there was not much information in that.

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#493 - 2012-08-09 13:32:14 UTC
Gevlin wrote:
okay Inferno 1.3 has been released.... do we get to see a WIS dev blog soon.. the CSM minutes got super hot dropped by NDA so there was not much information in that.


Short answer, we will not see any devblog anytime.

Long answer:

CCP Bayesian wrote:
I've got bad news about the devblog we promised. It's been swallowed by the black hole of corporateness and won't be seeing the light of day for the foreseeable future. The team have been as vocal as we can about the merits of putting it out but to no avail. We're continuing to try and work out a way of showing you work we're proud of and think you will like but for now our hands are completely tied.


My current guess, for what is worth, is that ETA for WiS has been delayed to 2014 as soonest and that's not granted.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#494 - 2012-08-10 13:27:39 UTC
Well I guess we can talk amoungst our selves....


I was wondering if anyone would like to join me on a Podcast where we can discuss the Moving avatars

Topics we would hit would be
- The Creepy Gap - why did CCP decide to Jump it- (Second Geration Avatar
- The importance of Realistic characters vs a Character drawing style
- How much money could a person really make via Peacoks only
- Ratio of Mechanics vs Graphics, What short cuts CCP as enjoyed by only rendering Space ships

- what specifics did FIS zelots hate about Incarna

This will be the first cast.
I hope that the second ones I will get some Questions from CCP and/or Team Avatar we can discuss, or dig some issues cover in the multiple threads produced but the eve public.

This podcast will provide entertainment for players and also Team Avatar, as we pretend to know what we are talking about and tell CCP how we think the direction of WIS should go, or include

So we won't be covering anything covered by NDA so Bring out your tinfoil hats if you like. It is

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships
Lost True
Perkone
Caldari State
#495 - 2012-08-11 11:31:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Lost True
Gevlin wrote:
Well I guess we can talk amoungst our selves....


I was wondering if anyone would like to join me on a Podcast where we can discuss the Moving avatars

Topics we would hit would be
- The Creepy Gap - why did CCP decide to Jump it- (Second Geration Avatar
- The importance of Realistic characters vs a Character drawing style
- How much money could a person really make via Peacoks only
- Ratio of Mechanics vs Graphics, What short cuts CCP as enjoyed by only rendering Space ships

- what specifics did FIS zelots hate about Incarna

This will be the first cast.
I hope that the second ones I will get some Questions from CCP and/or Team Avatar we can discuss, or dig some issues cover in the multiple threads produced but the eve public.

This podcast will provide entertainment for players and also Team Avatar, as we pretend to know what we are talking about and tell CCP how we think the direction of WIS should go, or include

So we won't be covering anything covered by NDA so Bring out your tinfoil hats if you like. It is

Sounds interesting. I can join, but my English isn't pefrect :)

in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?
Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#496 - 2012-08-13 21:46:00 UTC
Arydanika from voices from the void has offered to help with the pod cast taking on the roll of that person who does not know much about Wis

I plan to do this in a couple of weeks any one else beside Lost True would like to join. One more person on top of Myself, lost true and arydanika would work well

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#497 - 2012-08-15 15:27:46 UTC
Gevlin wrote:
Arydanika from voices from the void has offered to help with the pod cast taking on the roll of that person who does not know much about Wis

I plan to do this in a couple of weeks any one else beside Lost True would like to join. One more person on top of Myself, lost true and arydanika would work well



is there someone in that podcast ,that is a true WIShater.

If yes install a counter ,on how many times the word barbie is spoken

If not ,get one ,it doesn,t hurt if there is one
As long they don,t come with the same crap over and over again

R.S.I2014
Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#498 - 2012-08-15 17:59:15 UTC
Good point, I know a few of those types , I will ask if they would be interested

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#499 - 2012-08-15 18:35:11 UTC
I'm not a WiS hater, though I'm very much against certain visions of WiS, so could be up for this.

Never been on a podcast before though!

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Lost True
Perkone
Caldari State
#500 - 2012-08-19 13:21:59 UTC
We're definitely need more poses in the character editor...

in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?