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Animal muppet
The Templiers
#521 - 2012-09-03 17:27:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Animal muppet
Maybe CCP and the ( CEO ) needs a reminder Twisted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t1SKhdCkHM&feature=related
Reminder wht CCP Promise us!

Reminder wht CCP Promise us!

I been waiting ' I want WiS NOW! '

http://youtu.be/45mlVuLs_Nw
Lost True
Perkone
Caldari State
#522 - 2012-09-04 04:34:59 UTC
Animal muppet wrote:
Maybe CCP and the ( CEO ) needs a reminder Twisted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t1SKhdCkHM&feature=related
Reminder wht CCP Promise us!

Reminder wht CCP Promise us!

I been waiting ' I want WiS NOW! '

http://youtu.be/45mlVuLs_Nw

Those are my shattered dreams...

in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?

Lost True
Perkone
Caldari State
#523 - 2012-09-04 09:37:16 UTC
http://beta.xfire.com/videos/5a895b/
And even this **** with flying crabs has some kind of walking...Roll

in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#524 - 2012-09-04 10:00:24 UTC
Lost True wrote:
http://beta.xfire.com/videos/5a895b/
And even this **** with flying crabs has some kind of walking...Roll


Well, we got the best avatars in industry by far. We are just Minecraft's Bizarro twin: they got a helluva content and cubehead avatars, and we got a helluva avatars and no content. Lol

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

Lost True
Perkone
Caldari State
#525 - 2012-09-23 05:37:52 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Lost True wrote:
http://beta.xfire.com/videos/5a895b/
And even this **** with flying crabs has some kind of walking...Roll


Well, we got the best avatars in industry by far. We are just Minecraft's Bizarro twin: they got a helluva content and cubehead avatars, and we got a helluva avatars and no content. Lol

This would be funny if not so true... :)

I've just returned to EVE after a few browser games, and found that it's terribly boring. I've walked in my CQ, it's was cool, for 5 minutes, sadly, fckin' door. Then i've done one mission and barely puked :) Your signature seems to be true for me too :)

in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#526 - 2012-09-23 07:49:42 UTC
Lost True wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Lost True wrote:
http://beta.xfire.com/videos/5a895b/
And even this **** with flying crabs has some kind of walking...Roll


Well, we got the best avatars in industry by far. We are just Minecraft's Bizarro twin: they got a helluva content and cubehead avatars, and we got a helluva avatars and no content. Lol

This would be funny if not so true... :)

I've just returned to EVE after a few browser games, and found that it's terribly boring. I've walked in my CQ, it's was cool, for 5 minutes, sadly, fckin' door. Then i've done one mission and barely puked :) Your signature seems to be true for me too :)


I've been playing Guild Wars 2 since launch and barely have hit a few hours in EVE since. GW2's avatar are quite industry standard thus they score very low compared to EVE's, but walking through GW2's scenarios I just noticed what massive amount of work they imply.

There is no way in which a company like CCP can deliver that kind of stuff, let alone do it twice (for WoD and EVE). EVE's developers are spreadsheets in space developers. They're not even the appropiate staff for the job. And they will need a whole new crew about the size of the current one just for WoD. In the current state of affairs, growing to double its current size is not a realistic prospect for CCP; they're having enough trouble just to hold their ground.

I think they went insane pretending to develop avatar gameplay and we were the biggest fools for buying into the concept. Even with industry standard quality, there are more man-hours in Divinity's Reach alone than on the whole 200 ships of EVE, and yet it's taking CCP over a year to simply remap them. At this pace they couldn't deliver WiS in any sensible time schedule.

I guess that maybe someday CCP will deliver something WiS out of sheer stubbornness, just to show off, but none of us will be playing EVE then. Certainly I won't. I am just becoming to don't care about the ludicrous amount of time and money i've invested into EVE, to just call it a loss and carry on as long as i find something else to play.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#527 - 2012-09-23 13:47:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#528 - 2012-09-23 16:52:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Where is it??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_ZjVyRxx4&feature=relmfu

All scraped? Even textures?

Sad


85% yes.

15% left is in EVE and DUST.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

h4kun4
Gang Bang Pandas
#529 - 2012-09-23 17:45:23 UTC
I thnik the direction from now is ok...
The CSM doesnt really care of WiS is what i feel and CCP often refers to the suggestions of the CSM when planning a new addon.
Thats ok, but i think the time for a WiS Upgrade is not that far...they still have a team working on it.
Maybe its implemented in DUST 514 or the next summer expansion.
So you can meet up with the Mercs on station. Would be a beginning.

But WiS is clerly nothing practical. Everything you may do in WiS takes longer than you could do it in the Neocom.

What would be awesome (but maybe bad for some 3rd party communities)
gambling on station...like texas hold em, blacljack, lotterys and more
betoli
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#530 - 2012-09-23 18:30:44 UTC
h4kun4 wrote:

But WiS is clerly nothing practical. Everything you may do in WiS takes longer than you could do it in the Neocom.


a lot of eve is simply a reward for time invested. WIS should be no different, if it takes longer to achieve via WIS it should reward slightly better....
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#531 - 2012-09-23 19:33:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#532 - 2012-09-23 19:42:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
betoli wrote:
h4kun4 wrote:

But WiS is clerly nothing practical. Everything you may do in WiS takes longer than you could do it in the Neocom.


a lot of eve is simply a reward for time invested. WIS should be no different, if it takes longer to achieve via WIS it should reward slightly better....

Especially when you want to see some exotic dancers dancing.
How long we must wait? Sad

[quote]
What would be awesome (but maybe bad for some 3rd party communities)
gambling on station...like texas hold em, blacljack, lotterys and more

Success of these games outside game is showing that it would work if implemented decently. Maybe players could take slots and make cassinos. :P
Lost True
Perkone
Caldari State
#533 - 2012-09-24 03:21:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Lost True
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Lost True wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Lost True wrote:
http://beta.xfire.com/videos/5a895b/
And even this **** with flying crabs has some kind of walking...Roll


Well, we got the best avatars in industry by far. We are just Minecraft's Bizarro twin: they got a helluva content and cubehead avatars, and we got a helluva avatars and no content. Lol

This would be funny if not so true... :)

I've just returned to EVE after a few browser games, and found that it's terribly boring. I've walked in my CQ, it's was cool, for 5 minutes, sadly, fckin' door. Then i've done one mission and barely puked :) Your signature seems to be true for me too :)


I've been playing Guild Wars 2 since launch and barely have hit a few hours in EVE since. GW2's avatar are quite industry standard thus they score very low compared to EVE's, but walking through GW2's scenarios I just noticed what massive amount of work they imply.

There is no way in which a company like CCP can deliver that kind of stuff, let alone do it twice (for WoD and EVE). EVE's developers are spreadsheets in space developers. They're not even the appropiate staff for the job. And they will need a whole new crew about the size of the current one just for WoD. In the current state of affairs, growing to double its current size is not a realistic prospect for CCP; they're having enough trouble just to hold their ground.

I think they went insane pretending to develop avatar gameplay and we were the biggest fools for buying into the concept. Even with industry standard quality, there are more man-hours in Divinity's Reach alone than on the whole 200 ships of EVE, and yet it's taking CCP over a year to simply remap them. At this pace they couldn't deliver WiS in any sensible time schedule.

I guess that maybe someday CCP will deliver something WiS out of sheer stubbornness, just to show off, but none of us will be playing EVE then. Certainly I won't. I am just becoming to don't care about the ludicrous amount of time and money i've invested into EVE, to just call it a loss and carry on as long as i find something else to play.


It's sad but true. What do we're waiting from 7 developers?..

I think i will try Gild Wars 2 in the beginning of the next year when i have some money for the good start. Cool characters and PvE content, nice :)

From my point of view now, EVE FiS is like an addition for some planetside game, like the Entropia Universe. Because there is not much to do: there is nothing to explore, nothing to see if you're were in one of the "5000" systems already, almost no PvE. The only thing which is done is PvP, i've heard that is cool. I've tried PvP a bit in a few ways, and have been quite successful because i can afford to lose an expensive ships. And as i've suspected, it is not nearly a thing that i want to do in game most of the time. I've never thought that i will become a trader because it's fun, compared to most of the other activities :)

Maybe i've just played too much and i want too much from one game... Last 3 or 4 years i've played because of the dream of "Sci-Fi Simulator" concept that i've heard from CCP then. Looks like it's just a dream. The planetside gameplay will be console shooter and the most optimistic people in this thread are lalking about pocker tables, shops and bars on the station... it's just... not enough.Cry

in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?

Ghazu
#534 - 2012-09-24 03:53:16 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Lost True wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Lost True wrote:
http://beta.xfire.com/videos/5a895b/
And even this **** with flying crabs has some kind of walking...Roll


Well, we got the best avatars in industry by far. We are just Minecraft's Bizarro twin: they got a helluva content and cubehead avatars, and we got a helluva avatars and no content. Lol

This would be funny if not so true... :)

I've just returned to EVE after a few browser games, and found that it's terribly boring. I've walked in my CQ, it's was cool, for 5 minutes, sadly, fckin' door. Then i've done one mission and barely puked :) Your signature seems to be true for me too :)


I've been playing Guild Wars 2 since launch and barely have hit a few hours in EVE since. GW2's avatar are quite industry standard thus they score very low compared to EVE's, but walking through GW2's scenarios I just noticed what massive amount of work they imply.

There is no way in which a company like CCP can deliver that kind of stuff, let alone do it twice (for WoD and EVE). EVE's developers are spreadsheets in space developers. They're not even the appropiate staff for the job. And they will need a whole new crew about the size of the current one just for WoD. In the current state of affairs, growing to double its current size is not a realistic prospect for CCP; they're having enough trouble just to hold their ground.

I think they went insane pretending to develop avatar gameplay and we were the biggest fools for buying into the concept. Even with industry standard quality, there are more man-hours in Divinity's Reach alone than on the whole 200 ships of EVE, and yet it's taking CCP over a year to simply remap them. At this pace they couldn't deliver WiS in any sensible time schedule.

I guess that maybe someday CCP will deliver something WiS out of sheer stubbornness, just to show off, but none of us will be playing EVE then. Certainly I won't. I am just becoming to don't care about the ludicrous amount of time and money i've invested into EVE, to just call it a loss and carry on as long as i find something else to play.

Why is it that people support and enjoy actual avatar gameplay in GW2 but for eve it's like nahhh we only want to dress up and emote each other.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984

Lost True
Perkone
Caldari State
#535 - 2012-09-24 04:10:59 UTC
Ghazu

Because with such graphics it'll be so cool, some time for peace :)

On the other hand... My stomach is feeling weird when i'm thinking about how long it will take for them to make a full avatar gameplay and the content. Because it's hard for a human to operate with numbers which are tend to infinity :)

in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?

Noa Fuyu
Yub Yub
#536 - 2012-09-24 06:18:08 UTC
I lost interest in WiS when they removed the quafe chick from the Gal Stations because they were trying to go for some teen rating on boxed sets they were selling via Atari. I knew then that the whole walking in stations wouldnt be some mature dirty, seedy and evil universe that eve is and they write the RP etc.

Im eager and hope to see some good things come out of it but I feel its going to be very plain.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#537 - 2012-09-24 06:46:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Quote:
It's sad but true. What do we're waiting from 7 developers?


Sandboxy station enviroment?

C'mon, we dont need anything fleshed out, give us nails, hammer and planks, and we will build everything ourselves.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#538 - 2012-09-24 08:08:46 UTC
Ghazu wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Lost True wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Lost True wrote:
http://beta.xfire.com/videos/5a895b/
And even this **** with flying crabs has some kind of walking...Roll


Well, we got the best avatars in industry by far. We are just Minecraft's Bizarro twin: they got a helluva content and cubehead avatars, and we got a helluva avatars and no content. Lol

This would be funny if not so true... :)

I've just returned to EVE after a few browser games, and found that it's terribly boring. I've walked in my CQ, it's was cool, for 5 minutes, sadly, fckin' door. Then i've done one mission and barely puked :) Your signature seems to be true for me too :)


I've been playing Guild Wars 2 since launch and barely have hit a few hours in EVE since. GW2's avatar are quite industry standard thus they score very low compared to EVE's, but walking through GW2's scenarios I just noticed what massive amount of work they imply.

There is no way in which a company like CCP can deliver that kind of stuff, let alone do it twice (for WoD and EVE). EVE's developers are spreadsheets in space developers. They're not even the appropiate staff for the job. And they will need a whole new crew about the size of the current one just for WoD. In the current state of affairs, growing to double its current size is not a realistic prospect for CCP; they're having enough trouble just to hold their ground.

I think they went insane pretending to develop avatar gameplay and we were the biggest fools for buying into the concept. Even with industry standard quality, there are more man-hours in Divinity's Reach alone than on the whole 200 ships of EVE, and yet it's taking CCP over a year to simply remap them. At this pace they couldn't deliver WiS in any sensible time schedule.

I guess that maybe someday CCP will deliver something WiS out of sheer stubbornness, just to show off, but none of us will be playing EVE then. Certainly I won't. I am just becoming to don't care about the ludicrous amount of time and money i've invested into EVE, to just call it a loss and carry on as long as i find something else to play.

Why is it that people support and enjoy actual avatar gameplay in GW2 but for eve it's like nahhh we only want to dress up and emote each other.


It's a matter of waiting. We can wait in the void for three years at least until we get the whole nine yards of the same old crap on foot, or we can be provided a social sandbox and fill it as we see fit since next year and until whenever they figure some original and new content.

Also I pointed out in several occasions how the modding community could come to assist in art assets.

Currently CCP is not delivering WiS and is not allowing players to make WiS content. CCP is not even ASKING the players what would they want to do aside form the same old crap on foot. They are telling us to buy the same old starship stuff in new shiny or GTFO, and I wonder how long will be until enough subscribers please them.

They are removing gameplay from me with each "expansion" (now it's the Arbitrator's turn... it was a nice unique ship, will miss it) and are not giving anything in exchange. Oh, yes, the new Mackinaw is cool, now I can mine the same i mined for four years with a new ship, hoorray. So what? I still haven't repaid the Mackinaw and already are bored of mining, just as if I had done it for four years. And i am very excited about whenever they feel it's time to mess with faction BS, so they f-up my mission runner ships too.

Doh, it's on my signature, so why bother hammering the point? I never fitted into EVE, they're removing the little niches were people like me could hide from the politically correct crap and they're not going to provide substitutes. Neither in space, nor in stations. Game over.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#539 - 2012-09-24 14:50:02 UTC
you can discuss and troll WIS all you like,but without some input from the devs ,this thread is worthless
better close it

R.S.I2014

Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#540 - 2012-09-24 16:21:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Dersen Lowery
No news is not necessarily bad news. CCP may have clammed the WiS devs up because they have a plan to surprise us. I'm not saying it's likely, but it's possible. There are a few things--for example, POSes--that they're being pretty secretive about.

I'd rather have them do it right, and not do it to the exclusion of other kinds of gameplay, so I can be patient.

Edit: Some grounds for optimism.

Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.

I voted in CSM X!