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Has suicide ganking become a problem? Empty freighters being ganked.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#61 - 2014-06-16 18:24:43 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Give them logi escort. Two to three guardians and you're solid.


Wow.

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#62 - 2014-06-16 18:25:51 UTC
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stop -10s been able to dock, maybe even down to -5s.....doesnt stop ganking, just makes them think a bit more and certainly wouldnt destroy the game.


sure. but we'll lock capital ships like freighters out of 0.8 - 1.0

doesn't stop hauling, just makes them think a bit more and certainly wouldn't destroy the game

we'll remove highsec level fours while we're at it
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#63 - 2014-06-16 18:36:08 UTC
as a lowsec turkey i am offended by your disregard for my heritage anslo
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#64 - 2014-06-16 18:36:50 UTC
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Jen Takhesis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2014-06-16 18:39:35 UTC
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Daedlus Caine
Phyrric Victory Security Solutions
#66 - 2014-06-16 18:41:30 UTC
Noragli wrote:
When you let one group of players mercilessly grief another set, you lose players.

It's obvious to anyone who looks at it with a clear mind. If players are not enjoying the game, they quit.

You have this certain group of players who spend all their days in empire space just suicide ganking other players because it's the only thing that gives them pleasure in the game any more. Many of the victims never saw it coming or even imagined it could happen, then suddenly their ship is dead and pod is killed by a group of up to 25 players in cheap destroyers. This "style" of playing the game no doubt costs EVE many subscriptions.


It weeds out the people who can't be bothered to pick themselves up and learn from their mistakes. I prefer carebears who can persevere rather than fools who think this game is all hugs and kisses.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#67 - 2014-06-16 18:54:03 UTC
It's not about anger... it's about DPS.

It's not about fear... it's about KMs.

It's not about ISK... it's about ... well, it is about ISK... ya got me there.

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Tarpedo
Incursionista
#68 - 2014-06-16 18:54:54 UTC
Threads like this make me feel good about my decision to freeze industrial / freighter alt account years ago. I'm just a bit confused to see players (freighter pilots in this case) who are trying to do anything but PvP in EVE (or very profitable PvE in relatively inexpensive ships).
Soylent Jade
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2014-06-16 18:57:20 UTC
Someone playing an internet space ship MMO and posting on a forum about said MMO calling other people nerds cracks me up.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#70 - 2014-06-16 18:59:48 UTC
I made the following post in reply to this post. Posted: 2014.06.09 01:04

It highlights fittings at that point.

Mag's wrote:

Only 18 of those Freighters were a part of this change.

7 Charons
5 Obelisks
5 Fenrir
1 Providence

1 chose not to fit anything.
5 decided to fit for full cargo.
3 chose 2 cargo expanders and either an Inertia stab, or nanofiber.
1 chose 1 cargo and 2 local stabs.
1 chose all stabs.
2 chose all nanofibers.
1 chose 2 local stabs and a nanofiber.
2 chose 2 stabs II and 1 bulk II.
1 fitted all Bulkhead II
1 chose 3 armour tank mods. Experimental Explosive plating I, Refuge Adaptive nano plating I and an Elemental Kinetic Plating I

So out of those 18, only 4 chose some tank and out of those only 2 chose all tank. But then only one went with all bulkheads.
The one with all bulkheads was moving 3.6 billion in cargo and the armour pilot 5.9.

Out of the 3 jump freighters, only 1 was in the change period and he didn't fit a thing.

So yes, I would say all is well. Most haulers are not thinking straight and many of then are fitting for full cargo. Isn't that a surprise. Roll

If there is an increase after this change, in what is now considered a rather rare act, then the blame can only point one way. (Hint, it's not the gankers fault.)

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#71 - 2014-06-16 19:02:01 UTC
Noragli wrote:


I personally don't care if changes are made to fix this or not. It doesn't affect me directly, I do not use frieghters or other high value ships. This is just an observation I made, a line was crossed when they started targetting empty ships just for the sake of it. Is it time for change?
How funny is it when someone hides behind an 3 month of npc corp alt just to pretend that don't actually support something that's the took the time to post about?

Funny as in sad and weak that is.
Beliskner
Internet Loveshack
#72 - 2014-06-16 19:11:06 UTC
They are playing the game the way they want to play it. I don't like or agree with them but saying they shouldn't be allowed to do that is stupid.

You don't like it? Stay away from them.
Ashlar Maidstone
MoonFyre BattleGroup Holdings
#73 - 2014-06-16 19:35:25 UTC
Pilot Noragli, whilst I find you're bringing up an issue that doesn't involve me in any way, let me say this. Hisec has gotten to the point where it's become very much like Losec is anymore. While you do have an valid idea tho I honestly have to disagree with you in many ways.

Many of your points however and in which you are calling for a nerf to ganking in Hisec would most likely be looked over because this is PART of the gameplay we all must endure to the end of ages. Empty freighters and pods and shuttles which drops if anything of value should be enough to discourage gankers as is.

I really don't see why you're upset at such actions. If I wanted to I coulda done the same thing when I was living in hisec until recently when I moved to Nulsec, and there it's MUCH safer.BlinkBlinkBlinkBlinkBlink
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#74 - 2014-06-16 19:40:12 UTC
You know what would be funny? If someone suicide ganked one of the transports they use to ship more ships into the ganking systems.

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The Troll Bridge
#75 - 2014-06-16 19:40:26 UTC
If the wholesale ganking of freighters causes freighter pilots to remain at their keyboards, tank their freighters, fly with friends, scout the route, check killboards/maps to see activity on their route, watch size/value of cargo, use webbing alts to move faster/ more efficiently or simply wake up and pay attention, then it is worth it.

If all this happens and freighter pilots refuse to make changes to their gameplay, then who is ultimately to blame?

Clue: probably not the gankers.

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Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#76 - 2014-06-16 19:42:43 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
You know what would be funny? If someone suicide ganked one of the transports they use to ship more ships into the ganking systems.


I use redfrog for this :3

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#77 - 2014-06-16 19:43:34 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
You know what would be funny? If someone suicide ganked one of the transports they use to ship more ships into the ganking systems.

yeah but i wouldn't expect a freighter pilot to be competent enough to conduct as complex an operation as 'pushing f1'. heck, many can't even autopilot from amarr to jita without encountering some manner of misfortune along the way
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2014-06-16 19:44:47 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
If the wholesale ganking of freighters causes freighter pilots to remain at their keyboards, tank their freighters, fly with friends, scout the route, check killboards/maps to see activity on their route, watch size/value of cargo, use webbing alts to move faster/ more efficiently or simply wake up and pay attention, then it is worth it.

If all this happens and freighter pilots refuse to make changes to their gameplay, then who is ultimately to blame?

Clue: probably not the gankers.
Also, if wholesale freighter ganking increases the value of the freighters themselves and of highsec hauling as a profession, once again this game has proved how f*ing awesome it is.

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Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#79 - 2014-06-16 19:51:02 UTC
By the by, I figured this might be of use for the "nerf ganking" and "don't let -10's into highsec" crowd: If people honestly think that blocking low-sec-status people out of highsec (or even highsec stations) wouldn't have a significant effect on players simply quitting, remember that the reason CCP put tags in for raising sec status is because enough people were simply quitting EvE instead of trying to drag their sec status back up.

That was happening with the ability to enter highsec and dock up.

If you people think that blocking people with low sec status from using highsec wouldn't have a massively-detrimental effect on subscriptions, you need only look at sec tags as an example.

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Kalon Horan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#80 - 2014-06-16 20:16:10 UTC
So... yesterday i went out in a fast locking cruiser with an alt flying with it with RSB´s... i was looking for suicide gankers to kill, but sadly could not find any which is really sad. With all the whining going on about suicide ganking one might think it should be a lot easier fo find them, especially in 0.5 systems.

When i heared about aufay (i do not even sit in any channel that would have remotly anything to do with that area of space) I was really sad that they chose that area, because non of my chars that could pop a few -10 dessys can go to gallente space.

I think eve needs more suicide gankers so i can hunt more easy to kill dessys.

Anyone complaining about them and crying to ccp quite simply is just a lazy piece of ****. You have the tools to stop them. No1 stops you from camping the stations they use for hours and to stop them from suicide ganking, but you do not do it quite simply because you wanna make more ISK and rather come to the forums and cry about the situation.

If the people would stop to only care about ISK the life of suicide gankers or any -10 chars in high sec would be miserable. Crying about the situation only shows how ******* lazy you ppl are.