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you want more people going to nullsec? then buff highsec!

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#421 - 2013-09-07 14:19:59 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:


only gameplay can kill an mmo, like mentioned people still play chess, you get a kill every 1-5 minutes, thats needed

1 kill in 1 hour on average is not enough, there is not enough

you need to get 10 pvp kills in an hour, that would be about right, not hours of waiting and grinding for one kill

it feels like you guys are no true gamers, you are more like tinkerers


Given the choice of hunting for a target for just one kill an hour or getting kills on demand I will take the hunting every time.

There is no fun in just getting everything handed to you for no effort.


for you maybe, for the masses its fine to get more kills and have more action, thats why a seperate gamemode for those is perfect

we won't disturb your cat and mouse game out there...

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#422 - 2013-09-07 14:20:28 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
bloodknight2 wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
bloodknight2 wrote:
In short, Harry is mad because no one gave a damn when he asked for help crushing the goonies and since then, he's spending his entire time cloaked behind gates to kill noobship or indi and yet, he wants to change the game because YES, adding an (stupid) arena will change Eve and maybe even kill it.


its funny how you always go down the same road...


Because it is not true?

You always thought you would get a ton of kills in VFK and seeing how empty it was (the goonies were in war and anyway, VFK isn't jita) and how hard it was to catch a ship, you were mad. You banned almost everyone from your channel because we had better things to do than playing this game 10 hours a day. What you want in this game is easy pvp. Quantity over quality. If someone disagrees with you, you take a look at his killboard and if you have more kills than him (cyno kill...), you tell him how awesome you are and how noob he is. In fact, killing 50 cyno or industrials ships with your bomber is "better" than someone who killed 10 PVP fitted ships.

This is why you are mad and you want change things in this game. The bigger your killboard is, the bigger our Epeen is.


i got bored because PvP is missing right, thats the main reason i started the thread, i deleted the channel because you guys did not start pvping, you just do your boring drills

the only thing I'm mad about is you boring players not doing PvP and you are against it, you just want your waiting grinding ratting

the best players have only 1-3 kills per day, I was on the same level, its not enough... too much waiting time in between


You attacked our home while we are deployed half way across New Eden and wonder why you found nobody?
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#423 - 2013-09-07 14:20:56 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
where guys like me think about the meaning and use their brains


Says the guy who thinks warp core stabs make him immune to bubbles.


only you keep telling us that, newb

learn the mechanics before talking

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#424 - 2013-09-07 14:22:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
baltec1 wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
bloodknight2 wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
bloodknight2 wrote:
In short, Harry is mad because no one gave a damn when he asked for help crushing the goonies and since then, he's spending his entire time cloaked behind gates to kill noobship or indi and yet, he wants to change the game because YES, adding an (stupid) arena will change Eve and maybe even kill it.


its funny how you always go down the same road...


Because it is not true?

You always thought you would get a ton of kills in VFK and seeing how empty it was (the goonies were in war and anyway, VFK isn't jita) and how hard it was to catch a ship, you were mad. You banned almost everyone from your channel because we had better things to do than playing this game 10 hours a day. What you want in this game is easy pvp. Quantity over quality. If someone disagrees with you, you take a look at his killboard and if you have more kills than him (cyno kill...), you tell him how awesome you are and how noob he is. In fact, killing 50 cyno or industrials ships with your bomber is "better" than someone who killed 10 PVP fitted ships.

This is why you are mad and you want change things in this game. The bigger your killboard is, the bigger our Epeen is.


i got bored because PvP is missing right, thats the main reason i started the thread, i deleted the channel because you guys did not start pvping, you just do your boring drills

the only thing I'm mad about is you boring players not doing PvP and you are against it, you just want your waiting grinding ratting

the best players have only 1-3 kills per day, I was on the same level, its not enough... too much waiting time in between


You attacked our home while we are deployed half way across New Eden and wonder why you found nobody?


dude there is just one bigger fight on the whole map!

its sensless to discuss, you have no clue what i want, at least 10-20 bigger fights on the map each day

you are fine with your one fight, cool... its not enough for me, try to understand it, it feels like zero is happening out there

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#425 - 2013-09-07 14:24:46 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:


learn the mechanics before talking

Harry - The king of irony.

I disagree
flakeys
Doomheim
#426 - 2013-09-07 14:25:46 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
flakeys wrote:



Wich is a PLAYER versus enviremont ship.Notice it says PLAYER as in a PERSON.

You have surpassed the level of ****** lightyears ago harry the clown.

God how i pitty the people who have to be around you in rl.


people like me a lot, because I'm honest, however you just try hard to make fun of others to assure you feel better about yourself

you got the behaviour of a douche, all people around you know it

however they might not tell you to assure you do not get put down, people like you tend to be very sensitive and we know that



One thing we can agree on is we are both honest.The difference is i need to learn to just shut up every now and then not to make myself look like an idiot while you need to learn to shut up most of the time not to look like an idiot.

A subtle yet important difference i'd think.


It iis also funny how you call me sensitive while you are blocking everyone who disagrees with you yet i counter their arguement or suck it up.


i start blocking when they start getting personal and don't talk about the topic anymore because they are lacking arguments

its always the same reason, I block you guys when you have given up talking about the topic


Yet you still read them anyway because otherwise you could not have responded.

Thank you for proving my point.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#427 - 2013-09-07 14:26:41 UTC
Then why don't you find fights? There are players with +1000 more kills than you get in a month.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#428 - 2013-09-07 14:27:20 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:


for you maybe, for the masses its fine to get more kills and have more action, thats why a seperate gamemode for those is perfect

we won't disturb your cat and mouse game out there...


The masses agree with me. If they didnt then this game would not have year on year growth. The very fact that this is the only MMO to have a growing population after a decade shows that CCP are right in not catering to the instant gratification no effort crowd. You are the minority here.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#429 - 2013-09-07 14:27:48 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
flakeys wrote:



Wich is a PLAYER versus enviremont ship.Notice it says PLAYER as in a PERSON.

You have surpassed the level of ****** lightyears ago harry the clown.

God how i pitty the people who have to be around you in rl.


people like me a lot, because I'm honest, however you just try hard to make fun of others to assure you feel better about yourself

you got the behaviour of a douche, all people around you know it

however they might not tell you to assure you do not get put down, people like you tend to be very sensitive and we know that



One thing we can agree on is we are both honest.The difference is i need to learn to just shut up every now and then not to make myself look like an idiot while you need to learn to shut up most of the time not to look like an idiot.

A subtle yet important difference i'd think.


It iis also funny how you call me sensitive while you are blocking everyone who disagrees with you yet i counter their arguement or suck it up.


i start blocking when they start getting personal and don't talk about the topic anymore because they are lacking arguments

its always the same reason, I block you guys when you have given up talking about the topic


Yet you still read them anyway because otherwise you could not have responded.

Thank you for proving my point.


I randomly click on them when i get bored, I mentioned it already

if its about a think that i want to keep up as topic I do it more often

still as you post like maniacs its only about 10%

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#430 - 2013-09-07 14:29:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
baltec1 wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:


for you maybe, for the masses its fine to get more kills and have more action, thats why a seperate gamemode for those is perfect

we won't disturb your cat and mouse game out there...


The masses agree with me. If they didnt then this game would not have year on year growth. The very fact that this is the only MMO to have a growing population after a decade shows that CCP are right in not catering to the instant gratification no effort crowd. You are the minority here.


gaming did outgrow EvE 10 to 1 in the timeframe, because CCP is listening too much to guys like you

they could have a playerbase of 5-10 million easy

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Doris Dents
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#431 - 2013-09-07 14:31:45 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:


dude there is just one bigger fight on the whole map!

its sensless to discuss, you have no clue what i want, at least 10-20 bigger fights on the map each day

you are fine with your one fight, cool... its not enough for me, try to understand it, it feels like zero is happening out there

There would be a lot more targets in null if highsec hadn't demanded and got risk free isk that's comparable to null without any of the many drawbacks. Buffing highsec yet more won't reverse that trend it would only exacerbate it.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#432 - 2013-09-07 14:35:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Roime wrote:
Then why don't you find fights? There are players with +1000 more kills than you get in a month.



the best gamers have 1000 kills in 4 years on average, there are some with 1000 a month after they did skillup 5 years, thats right, you talking about the top 100 there, so 100 players have what I want, not much in a playerbase of 500.000

they probably dedicated their lifes to come up there as well, not my intention

the average needs to come closer to that number

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#433 - 2013-09-07 14:48:30 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:


for you maybe, for the masses its fine to get more kills and have more action, thats why a seperate gamemode for those is perfect

we won't disturb your cat and mouse game out there...


The masses agree with me. If they didnt then this game would not have year on year growth. The very fact that this is the only MMO to have a growing population after a decade shows that CCP are right in not catering to the instant gratification no effort crowd. You are the minority here.


gaming did outgrow EvE 10 to 1 in the timeframe, because CCP is listening too much to guys like you

they could have a playerbase of 5-10 million easy


No EVE would be dead and long burried. Those 5-10 million do not exist.
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#434 - 2013-09-07 14:52:11 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:


for you maybe, for the masses its fine to get more kills and have more action, thats why a seperate gamemode for those is perfect

we won't disturb your cat and mouse game out there...


The masses agree with me. If they didnt then this game would not have year on year growth. The very fact that this is the only MMO to have a growing population after a decade shows that CCP are right in not catering to the instant gratification no effort crowd. You are the minority here.


gaming did outgrow EvE 10 to 1 in the timeframe, because CCP is listening too much to guys like you

they could have a playerbase of 5-10 million easy



And how long would they keep that playerbase, about three months at most. Then they would move on to the next shiney laden theme park ride that calls itself a game and EVE would die. Since I'm quite invested in EVE I'm happy CCP doesnt listen to people like you and Im happy they chose to stick to their vision of what they want their game to be like.

Its very simple Harry, CCP will NEVER EVER give you what you want from this game because its something that goes against everything they want their game to be and everything that has made their game succesful for the last decade. Whining, insulting people and ignoring the facts just make you look stupid.

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you're welcome
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#435 - 2013-09-07 15:31:51 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:


they could have a playerbase of 5-10 million easy



Why do they necessarily want a 5-10m playerbase?

Because, if numbers sold = bestest stuff, then I present you 50 Shades of Grey as the height of literary achievement, and any number of pop stars and reality TV stars as the height of musical and human achievement and the bestest we have to offer.

Very few (aka 1) game has ever had that size player base. That is what is usually known as an anomaly or an outlier, not a standard which all other games must strive to match.

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#436 - 2013-09-07 15:36:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Darek Castigatus wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:


for you maybe, for the masses its fine to get more kills and have more action, thats why a seperate gamemode for those is perfect

we won't disturb your cat and mouse game out there...


The masses agree with me. If they didnt then this game would not have year on year growth. The very fact that this is the only MMO to have a growing population after a decade shows that CCP are right in not catering to the instant gratification no effort crowd. You are the minority here.


gaming did outgrow EvE 10 to 1 in the timeframe, because CCP is listening too much to guys like you

they could have a playerbase of 5-10 million easy



And how long would they keep that playerbase, about three months at most. Then they would move on to the next shiney laden theme park ride that calls itself a game and EVE would die. Since I'm quite invested in EVE I'm happy CCP doesnt listen to people like you and Im happy they chose to stick to their vision of what they want their game to be like.

Its very simple Harry, CCP will NEVER EVER give you what you want from this game because its something that goes against everything they want their game to be and everything that has made their game succesful for the last decade. Whining, insulting people and ignoring the facts just make you look stupid.


the only isults I get are from you guys, on and on, because you fear a PvP centric playerbase would trash your... understandable

they already listen to others by the way, thats why Dust was developed and the other vampire game, they want to attract those gamers, they just don't do it in eve, a shame, because the eve playerbase are full of whiners

if they would have tried to do it in eve they would have had more success

we could already walk around in gigantic space stations but people like you did hold it up, and you hold up great PvP stuff... you are the reason CCP lost its focus on EvE and started developing other games where they can bring in that stuff

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#437 - 2013-09-07 15:49:22 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:

if they would have tried to do it in eve they would have had more success


You say this dispite the fact that every MMO that did what you want done here has either lost most of their subs in the first year or shut down.
Ustrello
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#438 - 2013-09-07 15:49:41 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Darek Castigatus wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:


for you maybe, for the masses its fine to get more kills and have more action, thats why a seperate gamemode for those is perfect

we won't disturb your cat and mouse game out there...


The masses agree with me. If they didnt then this game would not have year on year growth. The very fact that this is the only MMO to have a growing population after a decade shows that CCP are right in not catering to the instant gratification no effort crowd. You are the minority here.


gaming did outgrow EvE 10 to 1 in the timeframe, because CCP is listening too much to guys like you

they could have a playerbase of 5-10 million easy



And how long would they keep that playerbase, about three months at most. Then they would move on to the next shiney laden theme park ride that calls itself a game and EVE would die. Since I'm quite invested in EVE I'm happy CCP doesnt listen to people like you and Im happy they chose to stick to their vision of what they want their game to be like.

Its very simple Harry, CCP will NEVER EVER give you what you want from this game because its something that goes against everything they want their game to be and everything that has made their game succesful for the last decade. Whining, insulting people and ignoring the facts just make you look stupid.


the only isults I get are from you guys, on and on, because you fear a PvP centric playerbase would trash your... understandable

they already listen to others by the way, thats why Dust was developed and the other vampire game, they want to attract those gamers, they just don't do it in eve, a shame, because the eve playerbase are full of whiners

if they would have tried to do it in eve they would have had more success



Really with all the wars and pvp going on everyday?
bloodknight2
Revenu.Quebec
#439 - 2013-09-07 15:50:19 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:


i got bored because PvP is missing right, thats the main reason i started the thread, i deleted the channel because you guys did not start pvping, you just do your boring drills

the only thing I'm mad about is you boring players not doing PvP and you are against it, you just want your waiting grinding ratting

the best players have only 1-3 kills per day, I was on the same level, its not enough... too much waiting time in between

it would not change a thing if i play longer and go out there with a bigger ship and kill cruisers instead of haulers, the result would be the same, the waitingtime and grinding even longer


PVP isn't missing. The problem is you and only you. You "cry" because there is no pvp when you are not looking for it. Camping a gate won't bring you PVP and when there is a target, you "cry" because you can't kill it because you are in a bomber. You want more kill? Bring a T3 and roam null sec. Trust me, you will find much more PVP this way. Players will hunt you and will do everything possible to kill you. You want more PVP? Wardec every big alliances in this game and roam amarr -> Jita

No, what you want is an instant "pvp fight" without looking for it. Eve gives you the tools needed for doing PVP anywhere, even in empire! You cry because you can't find PVP in Goons's territory, then why aren't you leaving for somewhere else?

Let's take a look at the map.
-Average pilots in space in the last 30 minutes? I can easily see 80+ systems in null who had at least 15+ players in the last 30min.
-Jumps in the last hour? Hundreds on Null systems had 10+ jumps in the last hour.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#440 - 2013-09-07 15:51:39 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

if they would have tried to do it in eve they would have had more success


You say this dispite the fact that every MMO that did what you want done here has either lost most of their subs in the first year or shut down.


you got no clue, why would they loose subs, if they just add stuff, subs are lost because of competition because other games get better and developement gets stuck... thats the only reason why subs are lost

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm