EVE General Discussion

it is a missleading idea that buffing nullsec and nerfing highsec will lead to more people going to null, the main reason so many are in highsec is just the risk going to nullsec and the high amount of ISK lost when going there... buffing highsec will reduce the risk because of good income streams for the average player

my suggestion would be to have higher profitable high sec anomalies, 30-50 million an hour minimum

newbs and random players need better faster access to isk, especially solo players who hop in and out of the game... more money for those players will lead to more risk taking (PvP), therefore more targets going to nullsec and more fights there

At least I have chicken.

Thank God.

While you have a point that having access to ISK encourages people to PvP (*) I doubt the effects will be visible. Most of the players will simply set higher goals for themselves - instead of grinding up for an Obelisk they'll save for an Anshar. At least initially. Because in the long run aAll that it will achieve is that more ISK is injected into the game and achieve exactly the same balance as it is now.

In fact that already happened. A few years ago having a billion ISK was filthy rich; now it's nothing to brag about. Frigates and cruisers still cost around the same amount though, yet there isn't more traffic in low- and null sec as far as I can tell.




(*) having more ISK to go PVP worked for me - before joining a WH corp I would have never grabbed a T2 Logi for a low sec roam without batting an eye.

It's not just a misleading idea, it's a non-existant idea. Highly paranoid High sec players egotistically cling to the idea that they are so individually important and special that any discussion about game balance and risk/reward must be some vield attempt to get them to move out of high sec and "play someone Else's way".

It's nonsense. No one with any sense cares about how or where you play. Folks like me who think high sec is to good aren't advocating balance in hiigh sec so YOU move there, we advocate better balance so that WE (or rather, our alts) can play competitively where we want to rather than the current situation that virtually chains us to Empire (where the people who hate null sec get to profit.....on null sec, because null sec wars are the grease that oils the EVe economy).



Buffing the incomes of the most coddled and least dedicated EVE players is a dumb idea. If they want more isk, it's there to be had if they want to take the risk of going to get it outside high sec, but no one is forcing them to. High sec players should accept lower rewards as their payment for CONCORD protection.

What your saying is the in-game equivalent of someone IRL saying "people on public assistance should get paid more, that way they spend more and the economy improves".....

Not really. The 5 Mill ISK an hour more doing Low Sec Exploration just isn't worth the time and trouble.

And that's just for starters.

the incentive is to play sov warfare, no need to have a drastic ISK incentive, they still should have that as well, however you need to be able to fit a decent ship faster, the isk grind to build a cool ship to do PvP takes too long, it must be easier to encourage more players going to nullsec and do PvP... the game should not be so much about ISK and how it holds you back, but to fit ships and do some PvP... the ISK grind and expensive ships is just holding the game back, much more bigger and cooler fights would happen if the access to ISK is much faster

the biggest issue I see is the time it takes to get the ISK for a decent ship, especially for the new players, then they fall into the habbit of just being a highsec grinder because they can not go to null early on, if that early hurdle would be reduced, you have way more players who just think its normal to go to nullsec

the time it takes for a new player to have a decent ship and do some PvP is out of proportion to the risk and how fast it can be lost going to nullsec... I mostly talk about randoms and soloplayer who are not able to join fleets and organize that much because they are just random players, if you make it easier for them to go to nullsec, it would be way more exciting out there, bigger alliances would have more targets, and other solo players could go one on one more often

the incentive going to null should be not so much focused on ISK, the focus should be PvP and exciting SoV gameplay... ISK should for sure be good out there, but not the main focus of the game

SOV is a game played by a handful of allaince leaders.

Regardless of that, it's ironic to see someone who doesn't think people should be "forced" to leave high sec for rewards suggest something that would basically FORCE people to make isk in high sec.

Most of my pve stuff is in high sec already. It's there because no one can ever take high sec pve away, unlike null sec where you can literally get locked out.

Sure, people (looking at you isn and DIN) can slow down incursion running, gankers and organized groups can slow down or temporarily halt high sec mining and mission running, but they can't stop it. Contrast this with the fact that people can and do take your wormhole or null space from you.

The problem is high sec and it's infinite spawning themepark goodies. Fix that, fix EVE.

No, it's not. As the IRL money (spent on public assistance, to be precise) doesn't come out of thin air like it does in game. Which leads me to my request yesterday, to leave politics out of it especially when you try to link uncorrelated things.

on topic: of course some have to instagank the topic because it's a Harry thread even if he's not completely off in all aspects.

It's just not ISK generation in High-sec that might lead to the desired effect. That would just lead to higher prices (mo money without mo stuff leads to mo prices), but material generation.

mo material (all over the universe) could lead to lower prices. So it's not that bot-miners would profiteer from such a move for long as mineral prices would tend to drop and in their wake most else.

A lot of people in hi sec are alt for players living in wh, LS and null. I had myself 3 alts doing missions while my main was in null or WH. Buffing empire won't change anything. Some players want to do PVE only and don't care about pvp. Some players hate PVE and only do PVP.

If you buff empire, you will see much more nullbears going in empire because "no afk cloakers that can kill anything while being AFK".