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Miner Bumping, Ganking and the activities of James 315 and the New Order of Highsec.

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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#281 - 2014-04-09 22:55:41 UTC
Alyth Nerun wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
1) Know when and where CODE operates. Avoid these places when they're online.

2) Set traps. ex: Armor tank your barge and have a repper cloaked nearby waiting. Armor reps keep you alive long enough for CONCORD to pop them.

3) don't mine belts. You are an easy target. Mission pockets are good, make the clowns scan you down and work for there killmail.

4) don't antagonize CODE or bi**h about them unless you are looking for them to come after you.

See, CODE is easily delt with.

1) by that you mean avoid highsec?
2) ship scanners and cloak delay
3) takes about half a minute to scan a barge down with the new one-hand-zero-skill-needed probe scanner
4) oh look, some useful advice

You totally forgot:
0) purchase a mining permit for only 10mil ISK per year and legalize I your mining


I mean:

0) my mining is already legal and no amount of shoddy RP on your part can convince my otherwise.

1) I'm mining in highsec all the time because I know when and where your agents tend to operate.

2) it was an example. Good counter though. (how many agents are going to implement it though?)

3) I noticed agents tend to aim for the low hanging fruit and move on, so....

4) thank you, but I put that bit of advice under common sense with, "Don't stick your d**k in an anthill" it tends to pinch a bit.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#282 - 2014-04-09 23:04:04 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Armor tank your barge and have a repper cloaked nearby waiting. Armor reps keep you alive long enough for CONCORD to pop them.
Armour tank? That's a pretty damn terrible piece of advice, it may be an option for a Covetor or Retriever with their single mid-slot, but once you've got strip miners fitted you've only got fitting room for a 200mm plate; may as well just not bother.

IMHO barges and exhumers should be shield tanked, and should also have the extender rigs to match; unless of course you're willing to accept ship losses as a cost of mining.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Maxmillian Rokatansky
Doomheim
#283 - 2014-04-09 23:08:57 UTC
This is in response to the thread in General discussion that was locked: Are New Order permits now worthless?

I would say that is a matter of perspective, but to answer the OP of that thread's question about the propaganda cans stating permit holding miners are now subject to bumps and ganks... Yes we are bumping and ganking permit holding miners.

Why are you bumping and ganking permit holding miners?

I'll tell you why... I understand that the ten mil permit fee is a drop in the bucket of the CODE budget, but let me tell you something about permit holding miners.

They enjoy sitting in minerbumping chat and feeding CODE agents intell about non-compliant miners.
I dont know how often this happens as most agents have scouts these days but on occasion they provide warp-ins for ganks.
Thats called aiding and abetting. Some of the people in the anti-ganking movement might still call them victims and thats allright.

I guess the biggest reason I think its a good idea to gank and bump permit holding miners is that there is not alot CODE can do to stop it, and most of them are in such disbelief that it is actually happening that they fall into their old habits of claiming victory no matter the outcome of any given situation.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#284 - 2014-04-09 23:18:04 UTC
Maxmillian Rokatansky wrote:
This is in response to the thread in General discussion that was locked: Are New Order permits now worthless?

I would say that is a matter of perspective, but to answer the OP of that thread's question about the propaganda cans stating permit holding miners are now subject to bumps and ganks... Yes we are bumping and ganking permit holding miners.

Why are you bumping and ganking permit holding miners?

I'll tell you why... I understand that the ten mil permit fee is a drop in the bucket of the CODE budget, but let me tell you something about permit holding miners.

They enjoy sitting in minerbumping chat and feeding CODE agents intell about non-compliant miners.
I dont know how often this happens as most agents have scouts these days but on occasion they provide warp-ins for ganks.
Thats called aiding and abetting. Some of the people in the anti-ganking movement might still call them victims and thats allright.

I guess the biggest reason I think its a good idea to gank and bump permit holding miners is that there is not alot CODE can do to stop it, and most of them are in such disbelief that it is actually happening that they fall into their old habits of claiming victory no matter the outcome of any given situation.
I think you'll find that they're more shocked at the distinct lack of opposition they've encountered so far. There's been a few woefully unsuccessful attempts to challenge them, resulting in much merriment amongst the Knights of the New Order. If you manage to actually do something meaningful about CODE. and their activities they'll probably be amongst the first to say well done.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Kelur Hunter
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#285 - 2014-04-09 23:33:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Kelur Hunter
Leto Thule wrote:
Kelur Hunted wrote:


Or I can just not pay and dock and bore you virgins to death and return to mining later on and also not saying anything to you people so I don't entertain the virus you guys spread.


Love these. Firstly, I am not part of New Order or CODE. I support what they do because it generates content. Secondly, as soon as you make comments like "you virgins", you automatically lose any credibility as its a baseless personal attack with no relevance to the argument.

As you will soon realize, players in EvE are likely to reap what they sow. You have kicked the hornets nest. Enjoy that.



OK, if you support the CODE I see you as one of them. They say so much rude things by far greater than me using the word "Virgins". When I talk against them I sometimes stoop to their level of disrespectful mindless blabbering. I apologize if I offended you in anyway. I Just don't see how people support the CODE. In my eyes anything that will make a new player quit the game is extremely unfair because they will quit the game and lose their chance on seeing Eve for the beauty that it is.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#286 - 2014-04-09 23:41:10 UTC
Kelur Hunter wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Kelur Hunted wrote:


Or I can just not pay and dock and bore you virgins to death and return to mining later on and also not saying anything to you people so I don't entertain the virus you guys spread.


Love these. Firstly, I am not part of New Order or CODE. I support what they do because it generates content. Secondly, as soon as you make comments like "you virgins", you automatically lose any credibility as its a baseless personal attack with no relevance to the argument.

As you will soon realize, players in EvE are likely to reap what they sow. You have kicked the hornets nest. Enjoy that.



OK, if you support the CODE I see you as one of them. They say so much rude things by far greater than me using the word "Virgins". When I talk against them I sometimes stoop to their level of disrespectful mindless blabbering. I apologize if I offended you in anyway. I Just don't see how people support the CODE. In my eyes anything that will make a new player quit the game is extremely unfair because they will quit the game and lose their chance on seeing Eve for the beauty that it is.


The irony here is that New Order Agents are never disrespectful.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#287 - 2014-04-09 23:50:10 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:

The irony here is that New Order Agents are never disrespectful.


The Miner Grab Bag, on the other hand, should probably have a warning label on it.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Maxmillian Rokatansky
Doomheim
#288 - 2014-04-09 23:50:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Maxmillian Rokatansky
Ugh
Leto Thule wrote:
Kelur Hunter wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Kelur Hunted wrote:


Or I can just not pay and dock and bore you virgins to death and return to mining later on and also not saying anything to you people so I don't entertain the virus you guys spread.


Love these. Firstly, I am not part of New Order or CODE. I support what they do because it generates content. Secondly, as soon as you make comments like "you virgins", you automatically lose any credibility as its a baseless personal attack with no relevance to the argument.

As you will soon realize, players in EvE are likely to reap what they sow. You have kicked the hornets nest. Enjoy that.



OK, if you support the CODE I see you as one of them. They say so much rude things by far greater than me using the word "Virgins". When I talk against them I sometimes stoop to their level of disrespectful mindless blabbering. I apologize if I offended you in anyway. I Just don't see how people support the CODE. In my eyes anything that will make a new player quit the game is extremely unfair because they will quit the game and lose their chance on seeing Eve for the beauty that it is.


The irony here is that New Order Agents are never disrespectful.

That is the whole point isnt it.
CODE agents that dont live up to there own CODE.
So should I contact you ingame with some chat logs and quotes of New Order agents being disrespectful and even being dishonest?
Ole Jamsey boy will go on and on about the dishonesty of miners and of the integrity of his agents.
He goes on... and on... and on and on.
Man that guy is longwinded.
Anyhow let me know... Anyone else want to get to know the real CODE besides the rhetoric they spout in local then spend some time in minerbumping chat.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#289 - 2014-04-09 23:51:53 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Kelur Hunter wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Kelur Hunted wrote:


Or I can just not pay and dock and bore you virgins to death and return to mining later on and also not saying anything to you people so I don't entertain the virus you guys spread.


Love these. Firstly, I am not part of New Order or CODE. I support what they do because it generates content. Secondly, as soon as you make comments like "you virgins", you automatically lose any credibility as its a baseless personal attack with no relevance to the argument.

As you will soon realize, players in EvE are likely to reap what they sow. You have kicked the hornets nest. Enjoy that.



OK, if you support the CODE I see you as one of them. They say so much rude things by far greater than me using the word "Virgins". When I talk against them I sometimes stoop to their level of disrespectful mindless blabbering. I apologize if I offended you in anyway. I Just don't see how people support the CODE. In my eyes anything that will make a new player quit the game is extremely unfair because they will quit the game and lose their chance on seeing Eve for the beauty that it is.


The irony here is that New Order Agents are never disrespectful.


Except for when they open their mouths. I have rarely met a NO agent that didn't try to taunt his victim into crying in local. So, eather NO isn't the upstanding organization you claim it is. Or you have copycats out there doing less than wonderous things for your PR department.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Nu'adu
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#290 - 2014-04-09 23:52:23 UTC
Kelur Hunter wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Kelur Hunted wrote:


Or I can just not pay and dock and bore you virgins to death and return to mining later on and also not saying anything to you people so I don't entertain the virus you guys spread.


Love these. Firstly, I am not part of New Order or CODE. I support what they do because it generates content. Secondly, as soon as you make comments like "you virgins", you automatically lose any credibility as its a baseless personal attack with no relevance to the argument.

As you will soon realize, players in EvE are likely to reap what they sow. You have kicked the hornets nest. Enjoy that.



OK, if you support the CODE I see you as one of them. They say so much rude things by far greater than me using the word "Virgins". When I talk against them I sometimes stoop to their level of disrespectful mindless blabbering. I apologize if I offended you in anyway. I Just don't see how people support the CODE. In my eyes anything that will make a new player quit the game is extremely unfair because they will quit the game and lose their chance on seeing Eve for the beauty that it is.



There is nothing beautiful about sitting in front of a giant rock or a giant ice cube in space, hitting F1 and going AFK.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#291 - 2014-04-10 00:00:05 UTC
Maxmillian Rokatansky wrote:

That is the whole point isnt it.
CODE agents that dont live up to there own CODE.


I got a bingo!

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#292 - 2014-04-10 00:03:02 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Kelur Hunter wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Kelur Hunted wrote:


Or I can just not pay and dock and bore you virgins to death and return to mining later on and also not saying anything to you people so I don't entertain the virus you guys spread.


Love these. Firstly, I am not part of New Order or CODE. I support what they do because it generates content. Secondly, as soon as you make comments like "you virgins", you automatically lose any credibility as its a baseless personal attack with no relevance to the argument.

As you will soon realize, players in EvE are likely to reap what they sow. You have kicked the hornets nest. Enjoy that.



OK, if you support the CODE I see you as one of them. They say so much rude things by far greater than me using the word "Virgins". When I talk against them I sometimes stoop to their level of disrespectful mindless blabbering. I apologize if I offended you in anyway. I Just don't see how people support the CODE. In my eyes anything that will make a new player quit the game is extremely unfair because they will quit the game and lose their chance on seeing Eve for the beauty that it is.


The irony here is that New Order Agents are never disrespectful.


Except for when they open their mouths. I have rarely met a NO agent that didn't try to taunt his victim into crying in local. So, eather NO isn't the upstanding organization you claim it is. Or you have copycats out there doing less than wonderous things for your PR department.


Not my department to PR for.

I just see NO as more of a benefit than a pleauge. Even if you hate them, they are giving you a goal. Providing content where there was none. You don't agree?

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#293 - 2014-04-10 00:06:11 UTC
Nu'adu wrote:
Kelur Hunter wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Kelur Hunted wrote:


Or I can just not pay and dock and bore you virgins to death and return to mining later on and also not saying anything to you people so I don't entertain the virus you guys spread.


Love these. Firstly, I am not part of New Order or CODE. I support what they do because it generates content. Secondly, as soon as you make comments like "you virgins", you automatically lose any credibility as its a baseless personal attack with no relevance to the argument.

As you will soon realize, players in EvE are likely to reap what they sow. You have kicked the hornets nest. Enjoy that.



OK, if you support the CODE I see you as one of them. They say so much rude things by far greater than me using the word "Virgins". When I talk against them I sometimes stoop to their level of disrespectful mindless blabbering. I apologize if I offended you in anyway. I Just don't see how people support the CODE. In my eyes anything that will make a new player quit the game is extremely unfair because they will quit the game and lose their chance on seeing Eve for the beauty that it is.



There is nothing beautiful about sitting in front of a giant rock or a giant ice cube in space, hitting F1 and going AFK.

How about: Sitting in front of that giant rock/ice cube hitting F1 going to grab your drink that you left on the counter and thinking of all the wonderful things you are going to do once you and your corp have the SP and ISK to get into low/nullsec ( and survive it ) only to get back to your keyboard 30 seconds later to find your barge is gone and some a**hat is spewing his own accolades all over local like he just downed a Titan in a T1 frigate. Welcome to Eve. This is all the beauty you get.Roll

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Kelur Hunter
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#294 - 2014-04-10 00:08:11 UTC
Theirs a way things should be done and I agree with a few things the CODE wants to change, however some of their ideas and what I will like to call practices are just wrong and I can't see it doing any good for the Eve Universe
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#295 - 2014-04-10 00:21:42 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:


Except for when they open their mouths. I have rarely met a NO agent that didn't try to taunt his victim into crying in local. So, eather NO isn't the upstanding organization you claim it is. Or you have copycats out there doing less than wonderous things for your PR department.


Not my department to PR for.

I just see NO as more of a benefit than a pleauge. Even if you hate them, they are giving you a goal. Providing content where there was none. You don't agree?



Oh, whole heartedly. Never said they didn't create content. But why did it have to be annoying content? Eve has plenty of that already. And to top it off, it's not even original. They just repackaged common miner ganking. They are fun to mess with on the rare occasion that I actually see them though...

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#296 - 2014-04-10 00:38:37 UTC
Kelur Hunter wrote:
Theirs a way things should be done and I agree with a few things the CODE wants to change, however some of their ideas and what I will like to call practices are just wrong and I can't see it doing any good for the Eve Universe


Which one? Ganking and/or bumping people who aren't at the keyboard, or having fun doing it?

Or does the RP give you the badfeelz?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Nu'adu
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#297 - 2014-04-10 00:49:11 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Nu'adu wrote:
Kelur Hunter wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Kelur Hunted wrote:


Or I can just not pay and dock and bore you virgins to death and return to mining later on and also not saying anything to you people so I don't entertain the virus you guys spread.


Love these. Firstly, I am not part of New Order or CODE. I support what they do because it generates content. Secondly, as soon as you make comments like "you virgins", you automatically lose any credibility as its a baseless personal attack with no relevance to the argument.

As you will soon realize, players in EvE are likely to reap what they sow. You have kicked the hornets nest. Enjoy that.



OK, if you support the CODE I see you as one of them. They say so much rude things by far greater than me using the word "Virgins". When I talk against them I sometimes stoop to their level of disrespectful mindless blabbering. I apologize if I offended you in anyway. I Just don't see how people support the CODE. In my eyes anything that will make a new player quit the game is extremely unfair because they will quit the game and lose their chance on seeing Eve for the beauty that it is.



There is nothing beautiful about sitting in front of a giant rock or a giant ice cube in space, hitting F1 and going AFK.

How about: Sitting in front of that giant rock/ice cube hitting F1 going to grab your drink that you left on the counter and thinking of all the wonderful things you are going to do once you and your corp have the SP and ISK to get into low/nullsec ( and survive it ) only to get back to your keyboard 30 seconds later to find your barge is gone and some a**hat is spewing his own accolades all over local like he just downed a Titan in a T1 frigate. Welcome to Eve. This is all the beauty you get.Roll


Well, the problem with that is, you didn't ask an Agent for permission to go AFK. Have you even read the Code?
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#298 - 2014-04-10 00:56:43 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
How about: Sitting in front of that giant rock/ice cube hitting F1 going to grab your drink that you left on the counter and thinking of all the wonderful things you are going to do once you and your corp have the SP and ISK to get into low/nullsec ( and survive it ) only to get back to your keyboard 30 seconds later to find your barge is gone and some a**hat is spewing his own accolades all over local like he just downed a Titan in a T1 frigate. Welcome to Eve. This is all the beauty you get.Roll



Why don't you just go there now?

Sure you won't be able to dominate high value areas of null, but you can certainly move to Solitude lowsec as a corp full of newbies with less capital than the cost of a Retriever and just 2-3 days of skillpoints.

I made the mistake of putting off PVP 'until I had more SP' then realised I kept changing my goals. 'I'll PVP when I have Drone Interfacing 5'. 'Almost there but I want tech 2 guns' 'OK got t2 guns, now I need perfect core skills' etc etc etc.

If I hadn't encountered the New Order and some mission pirates, I probably would never have grown out of that phase, and would have quit the game.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
John XIII
The Carnifex Corp
#299 - 2014-04-10 01:02:42 UTC
Manifesto I

Manifesto II

A little background for some of our newbros. Grab a drink and get comfy.

Enjoy!

Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#300 - 2014-04-10 01:06:40 UTC
John XIII wrote:
Manifesto I

Manifesto II

A little background for some of our newbros. Grab a drink and get comfy.

Enjoy!


These are the finest literary works in EVE history. In gaming history for that matter.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com