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Miner Bumping, Ganking and the activities of James 315 and the New Order of Highsec.

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412nv Yaken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#81 - 2013-07-16 22:54:37 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
I'm not familiar with the kind of thing I'm seeing here. Photoshopped links? Too young grandpas? Brahs all over the place? I feel like I'm in an 80s movie and the "bad kid" is just sputtering nonsense while lying on the ground after getting decked by Patrick Dempsey.


Dont you know about photoshopped links? Clearly you are under 13 because you dont know about these.

As for the rest of your comment, thank you for your input this is highly valued information and we will reward you with more posts.

Thanks

A True Champion of High Security Space

Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#82 - 2013-07-16 22:55:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Capt Starfox
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:

We need to fleet up more too. Now that we have better skills and mostly gank solo, we keep missing Mackinaw pods and we really struggle to euthanize Skiffs and Orcas at all.

That said, the number of Mackinaw kills is going up. If you don't believe me, check out the price history on the Mackinaw hull. I may or may not trade in such decadent mining equipment on the side.


Don't worry about Skiffs, they're not worth it. By the time you get enough dps for a Skiff you could have killed an Orca 15 minutes earlier. The only reason I could see going after a Skiff is if one has yet to be ganked in highsec; now that would be cool to be apart of that team.

Idk who FC's for you crazy guys anymore, but Zia and myself would form fleets based on the targets we found; this is the ass-backwards way of doing it, but is the easiest. Since we formed the fleets either him or myself was the FC/scout/logi. You really should try to form up before you find targets gives you a lot more options and can pick and choose, but I've noticed people get too frustrated with waiting and lots of times leave mid setup. It's way easier to get the numbers when you already have the carrot. Just be prepared to absolutely depend on everyone in the fleet. If one person leaves, odds are you've lost your chance at that target and now have to struggle to find a new one quick before more people leave; which isn't always easy with Orcas, mining battleships, and so on.

Mackinaw kills does not surprise me Blink
Glad to see you guys are keeping on keeping on, kill some for me Roll

Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet

412nv Yaken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#83 - 2013-07-16 23:08:47 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:

We need to fleet up more too. Now that we have better skills and mostly gank solo, we keep missing Mackinaw pods and we really struggle to euthanize Skiffs and Orcas at all.


So this was part our adventure last night.

http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18775996
http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18775998
http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18765845

If the you are struggling to kills orca's or pod macks, you guys need to just give up, or we can teach you for the low low price of 500 million isk, this is a special one off price and is never to be repeated.

A True Champion of High Security Space

loyalanon
The Conference Elite
CODE.
#84 - 2013-07-16 23:12:54 UTC
Learn to gank permits - special for the new world order

500mil
Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#85 - 2013-07-16 23:23:36 UTC
VegasMirage
Syndicate Enterprise
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#86 - 2013-07-17 02:09:46 UTC
loyalanon wrote:
Learn to gank permits - special for the new world order

500mil


derpy doo

no more games... it's real this time!!!

Mike Adoulin
Hell House
Hell Dawn
#87 - 2013-07-17 08:56:48 UTC
Straight

Dat Mack.

Ugh

X

And it was trying to...speed tank?

Sad

Cry

Sad

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
#88 - 2013-07-17 13:33:15 UTC
I have removed several personal attacks from this thread.

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NotTheSmartestCookie
Shooting Blues Everyday
Gimme Da Loot
#89 - 2013-07-17 20:18:41 UTC
Kids these days. There is no reason to get upset. There are plenty of miners for everyone. Don't believe the FUD about "peak miner".

Miners refresh every day after downtime, with several peaks during the day. Usually they come with handy labels so you can check to which gaggle they belong. And even if you overhunt a certain gaggle to the point that they migrate you can always be assured of random miners dropping in from surrounding systems.
It is a very good system and best of all these miners seem to pay CCP for the privilege of being targets. What is not to like?

Making New Eden a better place 8 rounds of Void at a time.

Funny, smartest, pretty and relevant. Pick 3.

Proud shareholder in Halaima MinerBumping

412nv Yaken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#90 - 2013-07-17 22:39:30 UTC
NotTheSmartestCookie wrote:
Kids these days. There is no reason to get upset. There are plenty of miners for everyone. Don't believe the FUD about "peak miner".

Miners refresh every day after downtime, with several peaks during the day. Usually they come with handy labels so you can check to which gaggle they belong. And even if you overhunt a certain gaggle to the point that they migrate you can always be assured of random miners dropping in from surrounding systems.
It is a very good system and best of all these miners seem to pay CCP for the privilege of being targets. What is not to like?


TL;DR

If we wanted to hear opinions from rookies, we would ask james315 to post himself.

A True Champion of High Security Space

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#91 - 2013-07-18 00:49:41 UTC
412nv Yaken wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:

We need to fleet up more too. Now that we have better skills and mostly gank solo, we keep missing Mackinaw pods and we really struggle to euthanize Skiffs and Orcas at all.


So this was part our adventure last night.

http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18775996
http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18775998
http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18765845

If the you are struggling to kills orca's or pod macks, you guys need to just give up, or we can teach you for the low low price of 500 million isk, this is a special one off price and is never to be repeated.



Now that was a yummy pod.

Only reason I have trouble podding Macks is because I fly solo in cheap tech 2 catalysts, and with my character skills, usually the very last shot before CONCORDOOKEN is the lethal one in 0.5.

My skills are a bit higher now (I've trained Surgical Strike 4 and Rapid Firing 5 since my last gank, SS 5 in queue) and so hopefully I'll get a few more. Sadly anti-tanked Macks are rare.

On Skiffs, I really do want to have a weekend of mass Skiff bloodshed just to send a message.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Ghosteagle Knight
One Legged Space Chickens
Electronic Control Monkeys
#92 - 2013-07-23 15:05:16 UTC
Well Well Well, Seems that the only thing i see going on here is out right extortion . The only difference is it is virtual and they know they can get away with it. this bing bangboom person all he is doing is out and out extortion and from what i see he likes the attention he is getting, also noticed that when he gets a wardec he waits for the 24 hr timer to get close to expirie then drops corp and reforms a new one. Reminds me of the wow players that used to hide when they were called out. if he is the target and the timer is almost up he hides in a station waiting and has his croonies do his dirty work for him.

AND just who is this James 315? never see him and always see BBB and Spine Ripper, never anyone else. It isn't bad that they go after the bot miners as far as i can see, but to go after the legit miners trying to mine for either there corp. or for them selfs for profit is something different. So the only way they think they can make isk is by forcing someone to pay up or get blownup, and at the same time control these miners by making them sit at there keyboard and not go afk for even a min or 2 to lets say a BIO run or to go to the frig for a soda or get coffee. THIS IS A GAME. not people you can control.

Move over Hitler JAMES 315 & his GOON SQUAD Are trying to be dictators in a virtual world.
Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
#93 - 2013-07-23 16:34:16 UTC
Ghosteagle Knight wrote:
this bing bangboom person all he is doing is out and out extortion and from what i see he likes the attention he is getting, also noticed that when he gets a wardec he waits for the 24 hr timer to get close to expirie then drops corp and reforms a new one.


If you will click on my picture right over to the left you will see that I have only been in three non NPC corps in my existence and have never dropped out of one to end a wardec. I fight my own battles and redeem my own kill rights. Guilty as charged on the attention w*!(#e comment.

In fact, if you go to www.minerbumping.com, click on FORUM and read "Cry Havoc and let slip the dogs of war" you will see that I LIKE wars and only let them expire when my opponents meet my terms. Those terms being to buy a mining permit and follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct for offending members of the corp or alliance.

No, the real problem that people have with me is that I (loudly) enforce The Code where ever I land. The usual defiance by the local bot aspirants leads inevitably to bumped Macks and exploded Retrievers and tears and threats and general epeen waving and finally, realization that the New Order DOES control the mining in the systems we claim and that they are powerless to stop me (except for Jennifer en Marland and The Saint Tsero who I do admit slow me down a bit).

Anyone interested in seeing what emergent gameplay looks like is invited to come to Kino and witness what saving highsec looks like. Just don't try to mine without a permit there.

Also confirming that Ghosteagle Knight is not my alt and any appearance that this is a disquised attempt to get more publicity for me is completely coincidental.

(Mention James 315 more, you idiot!)

Oh yeah, praise James 315.

Highsec is worth fighting for.

BIng Bangboom
Agent of the New Order of Highsec
Belligerent Undesirable

Highsec is worth fighting for.

By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.  www.minerbumping.com

KnightHawk cosmos
One Legged Space Chickens
Electronic Control Monkeys
#94 - 2013-07-23 17:52:26 UTC  |  Edited by: KnightHawk cosmos
hummmm.
Ghosteagle Knight
One Legged Space Chickens
Electronic Control Monkeys
#95 - 2013-07-23 18:08:04 UTC
Bing Bangboom wrote:
Ghosteagle Knight wrote:
this bing bangboom person all he is doing is out and out extortion and from what i see he likes the attention he is getting, also noticed that when he gets a wardec he waits for the 24 hr timer to get close to expirie then drops corp and reforms a new one.


If you will click on my picture right over to the left you will see that I have only been in three non NPC corps in my existence and have never dropped out of one to end a wardec. I fight my own battles and redeem my own kill rights. Guilty as charged on the attention w*!(#e comment.

In fact, if you go to www.minerbumping.com, click on FORUM and read "Cry Havoc and let slip the dogs of war" you will see that I LIKE wars and only let them expire when my opponents meet my terms. Those terms being to buy a mining permit and follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct for offending members of the corp or alliance.

No, the real problem that people have with me is that I (loudly) enforce The Code where ever I land. The usual defiance by the local bot aspirants leads inevitably to bumped Macks and exploded Retrievers and tears and threats and general epeen waving and finally, realization that the New Order DOES control the mining in the systems we claim and that they are powerless to stop me (except for Jennifer en Marland and The Saint Tsero who I do admit slow me down a bit).

Anyone interested in seeing what emergent gameplay looks like is invited to come to Kino and witness what saving highsec looks like. Just don't try to mine without a permit there.

Also confirming that Ghosteagle Knight is not my alt and any appearance that this is a disquised attempt to get more publicity for me is completely coincidental.

(Mention James 315 more, you idiot!)

Oh yeah, praise James 315.

Highsec is worth fighting for.

BIng Bangboom
Agent of the New Order of Highsec
Belligerent Undesirable


First off i have no use for you or your petty attempts and getting me to visit your site as it is all some sort of propaganda and Space Garbage which is what you and JAMES 315 are. and yes you are not me nor is this your alt. this is my account and thank god i have nothing to do with you or your stupid wannabe new order that think they can rule over real people in a virtual world. you are and will only be virtual to me and i feel sorry for anyone who believes in the BS you spew forth. You are nothing but a virtual thug. Oh yeah and i forgot one last thing,

JAMES 315
JAMES 315
JAMES 315

GO SUCK A VIRTUAL ROCK
Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
#96 - 2013-07-23 18:34:34 UTC
Bing Bangboom wrote:


The usual defiance by the local bot aspirants leads inevitably to bumped Macks and exploded Retrievers and tears and threats and general epeen waving


Ghosteagle Knight wrote:
First off i have no use for you or your petty attempts and getting me to visit your site as it is all some sort of propaganda and Space Garbage which is what you and JAMES 315 are. and yes you are not me nor is this your alt. this is my account and thank god i have nothing to do with you or your stupid wannabe new order that think they can rule over real people in a virtual world. you are and will only be virtual to me and i feel sorry for anyone who believes in the BS you spew forth. You are nothing but a virtual thug. Oh yeah and i forgot one last thing,

JAMES 315
JAMES 315
JAMES 315

GO SUCK A VIRTUAL ROCK


Yeah, just like that!

Highsec is worth fighting for.

By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.  www.minerbumping.com

Ghosteagle Knight
One Legged Space Chickens
Electronic Control Monkeys
#97 - 2013-07-23 18:47:48 UTC
ROFLMAO, ok i want to hear from any and all players who occupy space in this so called new order system. i just have to know how many actualy signed up for this BS.

The New Halaima Code of Conduct is the product of a truly democratic process. It was written by the entire community. As Supreme Protector of Halaima and Saviour of Highsec, I represent all of the individual members of the community and acted as proxy when drafting the Code. The Code is also a social compact. This means that everyone who enters New Order territory is deemed to have agreed to its terms.


Guess because i'm an independent and not a democrat or a republican is why i didn't get a vote in the say so of this CODE...


BTW really think it's funny that CCP steps in and removes your precious James 315 BIO
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#98 - 2013-07-23 19:05:26 UTC

The sad truth is that carebears are the angriest and meaniest people in all of Eve. This is not just my own experience, but it is well-documented on Eve Online's premier miner education website. If they really wanted to make a statement, they would embrace nonviolent protest like Gandhi. But they don't. Instead, the miners spew vile rage and hate-filled words in local when agents of the New Order arrive to enforce the Code.

This is why I am such an ardent supporter of the New Order. Someone has to bring order to the chaos. If you have ever seen the disgusting things that go on in ice fields you would understand. Ice is a limited resource we must protect, much like the rain forest and glaciers. Already we have seen the results of what happens when greedy industrialists suck our resources dry. There are no longer vast supplies of ice in high sec because miners were greedy and mined more than what they needed. If we don't stop them, there will be no more ice in high sec.

We all have a duty, not just to James 315, but to the whole community. We must protect high sec from the greedy miners. We must take a stand and do what's right. We must insist that those who do mine do so responsibly and within the Code. For the non-compliant, it is our duty to destroy the illegal mining vessels. Not just the saviour's duty, not just the knights' duty, but it is the duty of us all who want to make Eve a better place.

Join us!

And long live the New Order!

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#99 - 2013-07-23 19:37:06 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:

My skills are a bit higher now (I've trained Surgical Strike 4 and Rapid Firing 5 since my last gank, SS 5 in queue) and so hopefully I'll get a few more. Sadly anti-tanked Macks are rare.

I consider well-tanked Macs to be symbols of success - Miners who have learned to do more than fit a couple laser and go AFK.
I generally give a well-tanked hull the benefit of the doubt; there are so many less clued-in miners out there that need to be awoken.

Skiffs and Procurers also get a 'pass' - miners who have sacrificed output and hold capacity for the security of a well-tanked hull are smart enough, and not so greedy, as to be left in peace. *They're* not the ones you find multi-boxing and stripping belts bare like a swarm of locusts.

Show me an untanked barge above the Skiff or Procurer level, though, and my trigger finger starts to itch...

There is a multi-boxer / multi-client operation I will leave alone - He's actually smart, AND he doesn't run a large operation. He's got good manners when ganked, and doesn't rage. Polite victims generally don't interest me. Smart victims (yeah, can't be too smart, he fell to *my* guns, didn't he? Blink ) are rare enough that they're worth encouraging. Later when Im' a grown-up bad-=guy ganker, I'll be looking for more challenging targets... Lol

No, I want the real pricks - the losers, the ragers, the foaming-at-the-mouth jerks. Especially the ones who don't bother to protect their investment.

Ghosteagle Knight
One Legged Space Chickens
Electronic Control Monkeys
#100 - 2013-07-23 20:09:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Ghosteagle Knight
Well to a point i can see and get part of what this new order is doing but make legit miners pay for protection is a scam anyway you look at it, so you might as well call it what it is, i meen come on if you can't see a wolf in sheeps clothing then something is very wrong with all of you who buy into this crap of James 315 and his new order cult