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Appreciate the above. "Oldies\Bittervets" get grief all over and to be honest it makes us bitter lol.

Yeah, at least they got that bit right on the thin air part. That's about it really.

Malcanis' law....

Vets can speed up alt creations. they'd have the real playing skills in place to make this worthwhile right away.

Richer vets already have isk/plex means to write off paying for game. Not paying their sub fees for a while...well they could say hell I haven't paid for the game in a few months to years...screw it, if aurum based give ccp some money again for a switch.

Even I for truly free tools I use for personal computer interests have if truly amazing have clicked on their donate link since some payment should be given for job well done. Take away is not all eve players are cheap asses who won't cough up some cash. For this especially I would wager.

So you are saying that new players do not need to spend isk (cash to get isk/aur) in order to use it?

There is an unwritten book players transmit through forum tradition from generations to generations of griefplayers that might have been titled "The way I play is the right way to play", and that is from where they take statements like "Mining is boring", "The pleasure of EVE is solo PvP", and "My ship should balance to another entire different class of ship so I can take down a capital with two frigates and a shuttle" kind of stuff.

However, there is another book, some devs may have a glimpse when brainstorming, that could be titled "People in EVE are essentally good and will use the powers we give only for good".

Sometimes devs talk about something, even the most pessimist start to rethink that maybe it wont be exploited dry. Then you login in EVE, take out your ship for a spin, and the first phrase on local chat just kill the magic of dev blogs.

Devs and players alike, in their majority forget the rule of shame for any game:

- Any measure for helping new players will help more veterans. The new players usually have no skill or experience to fully appreciate what is done for them, but the veteran has. There is virtually nothing short of tutorials that was made to new players that didnt turned into veteran profiting of advantage.

- Any measure of providing solo play viability becomes a group/alt play enhancement by the potency of alts by the potency of people. The power you give to one character is the power of every alt, and every alt holder. There is no escape from it.

- Any measure of providing ease of changing sov just add the power of bigger groups to take more sov from smaller groups, generating an even bigger area of influence in the hands fo the already benefited veterans holders of dozens of accounts that amassed a fortune and influence through out eve history.

It is the EVE equivalent of civil disarmament to reduce crime. You not taking the guns away from possible criminals, you giving the criminals reason to believe citizens will not fight back.

Okay, there is this...but where will the SP come from? Suppose you want to make a small army of pilots with say, 15 million SP for who knows what....say carrier alts, say 100 of them. This way you could get 20 players across the map (or 5 midpoints) quickly. You'd need to purchase 1.65 billion SP work of SP packets. Or about 3,300 of them.

Yeah, it is easy to abuse things if you assume the supply is perfectly eleastic--i.e. there is an infinite amount of SP packets out there on the market.

Oh and you'd need 34 accounts too with all 3 character slots free. Yes, many players have multiple accounts, but the point is it might necessitate subbing even more accounts to accomplish this.

Contrary to claims this does not scale well.

Plexing toons have gone out of hand already

Use your isk to keep an extra character or three training. Periodically strip their SP and give it to the characters you actually play. Voila, isk for SP. Or $ for SP if you prefer.

Marech.

So....none of the typical MMO "Witness Protection Plan" account services
- No name changes
- No gender changes
- No employment history wipes

but....this!?!?

Seriously, since the end of 2012, the really bad ideas seem to be pouring out, each getting worse than the last.

Please, stop the madness, fix bugs, stop going to places like facebook, twitch and reddit to get input from trolls and actually listen to your player base here in forums and through our CSM electorate.

A really good idea would be to start hiring people who understand what eve players love about this game when we signed up. You know, things like it's harsh, it's beautiful, it's unique?

Easy buttons and the continued WoW-ification efforts aren't welcome to players who have been here a long time. Sure it brings in game-of-the month people, but they leave within a few months, and just want it easy.


Do you want people who invest their time in eve, or do you just want the constant swirl of short term players? If you keep this kind of game 'design' up, you'll likely have neither in a relatively short time.

Granted I haven't read the post in great detail, but wouldn't the whole diminishing returns thing make it a dumb idea to continually strip and transfer SP?