Wormholes

• When launching probes in a new system, the position arrows/box will appear in the location where they were last recalled. This can make them needlessly hard to find when scanning a small system after a big one such as Thera. Can the position controls appear in the place the probes are launched?(i.e. at the location of the scanning ship).


• The RETURN key is fairly far from where hands rest while scanning (mouse/left side of the keyboard) . To minimize movement, SPACEBAR feels like a more comfortable shortcut. I guess this can be subjective so the ability to customize it would be ideal.


• It would be great if you could allow resizing of the probe formation via ALT+mouse scroll, or ALT+drag. Having to click cones all the time is annoying.


• This one has always been a problem (also in the old map): When moving your probe formation around, sometimes you might accidentally click one of the arrows that is facing you, displacing the whole thing hundreds of AU towards or away from you. Is it possible to hide these arrows that are on the axis you are looking from?


• Very often the 'You are here' icon will incorrectly appear at the sun's location.

Thanks for the hard work!

Thank you CCP for continuing to work on and improve the new scanning interface. I have not used previous iterations of the beta map so I cannot comment on the progression of changes but from what I’ve heard this is a marked improvement. Some comments I have on the new scanning interface as an avid explorer.

1. The icon the displaying the status of the cosmic signature is the same size as the box to move the probes so when zoomed out it interferes will being able to move the probes around by the box
2. When looking from a top down perspective, the shading of the arrows and box is almost too light to even see, darken the shading
3. The center probe in the pinpoint formation’s icon makes it difficult to grab the box to move the probes. Possible to only have it display when you are holding ctrl?
4. Having all of the probes displayed even when not pressing ctrl is very distracting. Possible to only have them display when you are holding ctrl?
5. Center probe arrows bugs out, rapidly changes its orientation, when shrinking or expanding the probe centering using ctrl
6. The tooltips are very large and intrusive to scanning
7. Double clicking on item in scan results window has the signature centered to the left of the actual center of the center
8. Would it be possible to leave in the ability to grab the edge of the probe spheres in order to shrink their size? It’s a big quality of life thing for somebody who scans so much daily in being able to do everything I need to do to scan with just the mouse
9. When grabbing the arrows along the plane of the universe from a perpendicular angle, only see them side on, and try to move them, the probe move sporadically, not following the cursor
10. The recentering on double clicking something is a bit too quick for my taste, if possible tune this down a touch

I seem to recall that the lack of a 'centre on me' option was deliberate to increase the time required to probe on grid. It would be much better if there was a different solution, though. Perhaps probe time should be doubled if on grid or something.

Heyyyy you guyyys,

So, first off on behalf of Team Psycho Sisters, thanks so much for all of this feedback. We've got lots of it from here, reddit, survey, anecdotes, and Corbexx has some more for us too that he's been gathering through his channels. In the spirit of iteration, we thought we'd share some of the inital changes that have been made to the new interface based on the feedback. Please note that this list, while comprehensive of changes that have already been made, is not indicative of the final shape of the product and we are absolutely looking for an ongoing discussion so that we can deliver a scanning interface we can all be proud of and have fun using.

Before I give you the list though, I wanted to let you know about my own EVE background. I started playing in 2010 and did the oh-so-familiar train-mine-quit cycle. Came back with a friend a few weeks later, hooked up with other friends that had been playing for a while, did some missioning until that got old and then it was off to wormhole space! I've lived out of C1-4 holes, never a 5 or 6, since then (barring a brief sojourn into FW, which was fun but lacked the awesome dread that WH space imparts to me - and I'm not talking Moros). I do a ton of scanning, mainly sigs but a fair bit of combat too, so I have a lot of attachment to the scanning system, though who knows - I may use it in totally different ways to many of you. From reading this thread alone, it is clear that scanning styles and use cases vary wildly and that's one of the reasons it's so important to the team to have this discourse and iron out discrepancies.

Anyway, enough about me! Here are the changes made so far, in no particular order, based on your feedback. The new interface has been re-enabled again on Singularity, available via Ctrl-Click on the existing Probe Scanner button. Give it another go and let us know how you feel!

- Reverted probe position controls to the old one
- Removed experimental alt-click probe positioning
- Fixed position update on probe markers on init and probe warp
- Tweaked colors of probes and scene, removed starfield
- Added sun marker filter (applies to all new maps)
- Changed appearance and behaviour of probe move/scale controls
- Visibility of scan result in 3D scene reflects selection state of result list
- Decreased min size of probe scan window
- Made standard filters toggleable through 1,2,3,4,5 keys (this only works when the window is active and does not overwrite other bindings, and cannot be rebound)
- Added distance on celesital and scan result markers (applies to map as well)
- Made it possible to scan by hitting RETURN when window has focus
- Added smaller "No probes deployed" hint so its visible if the probes menu is at its min size
- Making ignored result clickable to reset the state, changed icon to X
- Adding help icon explaining probe position modifier keys
- Change Range only accessible while pressing ALT
- Added menu icon on filtered and ignored status texts
- Added support for configurable min height in DockPanelMenu allowing probe menu to be resized to one entry
- Tweaked fadeout distance on bookmark markers (applies to map as well)
- Synced the tooltip delay to inflight-bracket tooltip delay
- Added camera center offset to mapview camera
- Fixed spots in 3D scene for planets and moons
- cleaned up scan result entry
- Unified probe, intersection, warpline, movement line colors
- Added map backdrop
- Removed probe status in probelist
- Dimmed the starfield
- Polished icons on formation and probe buttons
- Tweaked appearance of menu resize handles
- Tweaked the layout so all controls are in the sidepanel
- Re-enabled the new pTrobe scan window by CTRL-Click probescan button
- Implemented highlight indication on probes and results

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The card got on to the site due to miscommunication between departments, sorry for the inconveniece. Ideally we are aiming for a point release in the next few weeks, but only once we and you are happy with it.