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War on Gankers

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ladypee
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#61 - 2014-12-29 11:12:52 UTC
"On a final note, war is a messy business and innocent people may get hurt along the way , and indeed have, by our operative, to which i am very sorry but its for the Greater Good in making High sec a little bit safer."

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ISD Supogo
ISD BH
ISD Alliance
#62 - 2014-12-29 12:35:07 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD BH Supogo
Removed chat logs.

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Bughunter

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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#63 - 2014-12-29 13:13:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Bronson Hughes
Veers Belvar wrote:
Nah...easy to beat them...just keep on doing your PvE activities in complete safety in highsec while minting isk and rubbing it in their faces.

If you're doing it while at keyboard, it's a win for them. If you're AFK-ing, you're just someone who hasn't been "saved" yet, which is not a loss for them.

Veers Belvar wrote:
Call out their RL harassment, bonus rooms, AT forfeit, and unhinged leadership.

This is will be twisted into "tears" and declared another victory on their part.

Veers Belvar wrote:
As much as they claim to not care this absolutely infuriates them, as can be seen from the grr Veers rage.

Nothing personal Veers, but the rage you get is them having a fabulous time at your expense. They still win.

Veers Belvar wrote:
"Winning" against CODE is trivially easy...they don't even pose real competition.

Not sure if you mean "threat" instead of "competition". Assuming you do, there's roughly 9 trillion ISK worth of lost assets that say otherwise. Assuming you don't, they don't have to compete because suicide gankers work together and anti-gankers have not, to date, proven generally up to the task of stopping them. The Code wins.

The Code is like a religion. You cannot defeat it with logic or action from the outside. It has taken on a life of its own and must run its due course regardless of what non-believers do. Change will only come from within.

Mind you, I say this as a non-adherent; I don't follow The Code, but I acknowledge it for what it is. While I am on friendly terms with a number of adherents, I do not follow The Code per se, nor do I work directly with their pilots. I have some respect for their stated goals, and actually share some of those goals, and admire their ability to organize people behind a singular goal, but I part ways with Code adherents when it comes to suicide ganking (never been a fan), "tear collection" (seems rather childish to me), and faux religious fervor (we have enough religious wars outside of New Eden to need any more here).

EDIT: formatting.

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Aleksi Bocharov
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#64 - 2014-12-29 14:55:05 UTC
Sharise Dragonstar wrote:
If they move to your system just move out


CODE Wins by virtue of affecting your game play.

Sharise Dragonstar wrote:
They are abusing game mechanics


CCP disagrees.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#65 - 2014-12-29 14:57:51 UTC
ggodhsup wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
ggodhsup wrote:
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:


No thanks...C&P isn't just a place for gankers/griefers to mock "carebears" and talk about blowing them up. The good guys get representation too.



Wasn't aware that mindless shitposting was a good guy thing. Filling C&P with bullshit, is no better than mindlessly shitting up local. Never actually seen ingame so I dunno if you do that, but somehow I feel as if you do,


Although I will admit the amount of CODE. in C&P is getting to be tiresome.


The PvP Expert thing is hilarious though.


thank you...veers is not anyone that people should fear.

EDIT: ever.


Veers has a green killboard and from the looks of it he is a decent pilot. Just because he is a super troll doesn't mean he can't fly.

Also please keep in mind all three thunderdome matches to date have had no outside involvement. Just saying.

As far as shittting up local goes? A bit too much for my tastes. I'll block pretty much anyone who does it. (God it was bad when TEST came to FW)

I fully support all types of gameplay and the codedot guys... But the local trash is just annoying. I'm aware why they do it, but its still a pet peeve of mine.


wait leto, i fight, actively.....but veers will not actively act on challenges that he acquires, because we are better than him.

worst part is you are defending him.....enjoy your stance....i welcome you to our gates.....you are a veers alt right?

[EDIT]: leto.....you are not what i thought....[thunderdome] may be in order.

EDIT EDIT: if your killboard isnt red, then you dont pvp. period.


Woah woah woah. I'm not a veers supporter and I'm not defending him. I think he is a misguided troll, but until I fight him, I can't say he is a bad based purely on forum shitposts.


Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Amyclas Amatin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2014-12-29 20:42:38 UTC
Obligatory THE CODE ALWAYS WINS, ALWAYS.

Also the goon overlords have been most pleased with the ganking.

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#67 - 2014-12-29 23:27:15 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Nah...easy to beat them...just keep on doing your PvE activities in complete safety in highsec while minting isk and rubbing it in their faces.

If you're doing it while at keyboard, it's a win for them. If you're AFK-ing, you're just someone who hasn't been "saved" yet, which is not a loss for them.

Veers Belvar wrote:
Call out their RL harassment, bonus rooms, AT forfeit, and unhinged leadership.

This is will be twisted into "tears" and declared another victory on their part.

Veers Belvar wrote:
As much as they claim to not care this absolutely infuriates them, as can be seen from the grr Veers rage.

Nothing personal Veers, but the rage you get is them having a fabulous time at your expense. They still win.

Veers Belvar wrote:
"Winning" against CODE is trivially easy...they don't even pose real competition.

Not sure if you mean "threat" instead of "competition". Assuming you do, there's roughly 9 trillion ISK worth of lost assets that say otherwise. Assuming you don't, they don't have to compete because suicide gankers work together and anti-gankers have not, to date, proven generally up to the task of stopping them. The Code wins.

The Code is like a religion. You cannot defeat it with logic or action from the outside. It has taken on a life of its own and must run its due course regardless of what non-believers do. Change will only come from within.

Mind you, I say this as a non-adherent; I don't follow The Code, but I acknowledge it for what it is. While I am on friendly terms with a number of adherents, I do not follow The Code per se, nor do I work directly with their pilots. I have some respect for their stated goals, and actually share some of those goals, and admire their ability to organize people behind a singular goal, but I part ways with Code adherents when it comes to suicide ganking (never been a fan), "tear collection" (seems rather childish to me), and faux religious fervor (we have enough religious wars outside of New Eden to need any more here).

EDIT: formatting.


You are way off here. Code is about changing risk reward in highsec. They have failed vis a vis mission and incursion runners. No permit and still no danger. This should be emphasized at every opportunity.
Zepher Helen Hawat
Malfurion Mining
#68 - 2014-12-29 23:46:59 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:

They have failed vis a vis mission and incursion runners. No permit and still no danger. This should be emphasized at every opportunity.


Maybe they don't care at the moment about mission & incursion runners?
It's not always about you Veers, no matter how much you want it to be so.
Lady Areola Fappington
#69 - 2014-12-30 00:20:44 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:


Veers Belvar wrote:
As much as they claim to not care this absolutely infuriates them, as can be seen from the grr Veers rage.

Nothing personal Veers, but the rage you get is them having a fabulous time at your expense. They still win.



Basically this. Code pretty much encourages Veers to post as much as he wants, whenever and wherever he wants. It makes for amusing reading.

Not only that, just knowing that you can mind-control someone like Veers into wasting so much time and energy without actually interacting with him in game is just plain glorious.

I mean, why bother spending the time hunting him down and burning assets, when all you have to do is say "CODE" and he'll be right in there, shoveling up multi-paragraph screeds for your enjoyment.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide

Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#70 - 2014-12-30 00:26:54 UTC
Come on guys. The veers toon is an obvious troll. I seriously doubt he honestly believes the crap he posts.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#71 - 2014-12-30 01:21:32 UTC
Zepher Helen Hawat wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:

They have failed vis a vis mission and incursion runners. No permit and still no danger. This should be emphasized at every opportunity.


Maybe they don't care at the moment about mission & incursion runners?
It's not always about you Veers, no matter how much you want it to be so.


Multiple failed contests and attemps, etc... they certainly do care
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#72 - 2014-12-30 01:24:02 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
You are way off here. Code is about changing risk reward in highsec. They have failed vis a vis mission and incursion runners. No permit and still no danger. This should be emphasized at every opportunity.

I think it's you who is "way off" here sir. The New Halaima Code of Conduct mentions nothing about mission runners or incursion runners. Their focus is, at least according to their own website, on AFK miners and other "bot aspirants" (i.e. AFK haulers, autopiloting pods, etc.). Some pilots running missions or incursions may be AFK, but I highly doubt that a significant portion of them are. While I'm sure that Code adherents would never pass up a chance to gank a shiny mission/incursion ship in hisec, these ships are not their primary focus and never have been.

Your lack of such a basic understanding of The Code and its adherents seriously casts a shadow on any efforts of yours to undermine them and only adds fodder to their "Grr Veers" rage. You can never hope to defeat an opponent that you do not understand.

Relatively Notorious By Association

My Many Misadventures

I predicted FAUXs

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#73 - 2014-12-30 03:05:53 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
You are way off here. Code is about changing risk reward in highsec. They have failed vis a vis mission and incursion runners. No permit and still no danger. This should be emphasized at every opportunity.

I think it's you who is "way off" here sir. The New Halaima Code of Conduct mentions nothing about mission runners or incursion runners. Their focus is, at least according to their own website, on AFK miners and other "bot aspirants" (i.e. AFK haulers, autopiloting pods, etc.). Some pilots running missions or incursions may be AFK, but I highly doubt that a significant portion of them are. While I'm sure that Code adherents would never pass up a chance to gank a shiny mission/incursion ship in hisec, these ships are not their primary focus and never have been.

Your lack of such a basic understanding of The Code and its adherents seriously casts a shadow on any efforts of yours to undermine them and only adds fodder to their "Grr Veers" rage. You can never hope to defeat an opponent that you do not understand.


It is you who are mistaken, sir. Code has interpreted their charter to require permits from all who operate in highsec. They claim that incursion runners go afk between sites. They simply dont have the class to enforce their own code against more competent players.
Zepher Helen Hawat
Malfurion Mining
#74 - 2014-12-30 03:33:38 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:


Multiple failed contests and attemps, etc... they certainly do care



Ok. Prove it.
Zepher Helen Hawat
Malfurion Mining
#75 - 2014-12-30 03:35:42 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:


It is you who are mistaken, sir. Code has interpreted their charter to require permits from all who operate in highsec. They claim that incursion runners go afk between sites. They simply dont have the class to enforce their own code against more competent players.


LOL! Now that's funny!

Are you sure your hat size is only 7 1/8?
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#76 - 2014-12-30 04:18:52 UTC
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Although I will admit the amount of CODE. in C&P is getting to be tiresome.


The PvP Expert thing is hilarious though.


We're tiresome, yet you like the content we produce? :confused:

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#77 - 2014-12-30 04:21:02 UTC
Zepher Helen Hawat wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:


Multiple failed contests and attemps, etc... they certainly do care



Ok. Prove it.


http://www.minerbumping.com/2014/08/the-accusation.html

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=366607

just for starters....
Zepher Helen Hawat
Malfurion Mining
#78 - 2014-12-30 05:17:49 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Zepher Helen Hawat wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:


Multiple failed contests and attemps, etc... they certainly do care



Ok. Prove it.


http://www.minerbumping.com/2014/08/the-accusation.html

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=366607

just for starters....



Meh... try harder.
Valkin Mordirc
#79 - 2014-12-30 06:55:21 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Although I will admit the amount of CODE. in C&P is getting to be tiresome.


The PvP Expert thing is hilarious though.


We're tiresome, yet you like the content we produce? :confused:



I get tired of C&P being filled with at least the majority of CODE. stuff. I'd like to see more content creator


I like the fact you guys can lead such a large player base in Highsec. I like most of the content you provide the ganks and such. But I am personally rather burnt out from it thats all.

CODE. Makes a great Villain, which EVE needs. So you get my support by that alone.


CODE is interesting. But to much of it can be mildly annoying. Rather see CODE post then Veer or Lucas posts though.
#DeleteTheWeak
Concord Guy's Cousin
Doomheim
#80 - 2014-12-30 07:09:47 UTC
Zepher Helen Hawat wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:


It is you who are mistaken, sir. Code has interpreted their charter to require permits from all who operate in highsec. They claim that incursion runners go afk between sites. They simply dont have the class to enforce their own code against more competent players.


LOL! Now that's funny!

Are you sure your hat size is only 7 1/8?
Somewhere along the lines he's misplaced a decimal point 7.125 != 712.5

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