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War on Gankers

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Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#81 - 2014-12-30 14:53:57 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Best of luck with your war, OP! Many have tried, and very few have succeeded.


Who would be an example of the very few who've succeeded in a war against gankers? And by what did you measure "success"?

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Danalee
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#82 - 2014-12-30 15:03:04 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Come on guys. The veers toon is an obvious troll. I seriously doubt he honestly believes the crap he posts.

Leto, Veers is winning... Give up.
Look at the first page on our once nice forums... Locked threads and code threads and threads getting derailed by him...
Some bigshot wrote:
This thread has gone way off topic, and is the subject of a high volume of reports, as such it's being closed.


Next thing you know, I'll need to read some serious website while at work or - GOD FORBID - update my facebook status or something.

GAME OVER MAN. GAME OVER.

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#83 - 2014-12-30 15:06:25 UTC
Danalee wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Come on guys. The veers toon is an obvious troll. I seriously doubt he honestly believes the crap he posts.

Leto, Veers is winning... Give up.
Look at the first page on our once nice forums... Locked threads and code threads and threads getting derailed by him...
Some bigshot wrote:
This thread has gone way off topic, and is the subject of a high volume of reports, as such it's being closed.


Next thing you know, I'll need to read some serious website while at work or - GOD FORBID - update my facebook status or something.

GAME OVER MAN. GAME OVER.

D.

Bear


I honestly wonder how one guy can be permitted to derail threads over and over again without facing a loss of his posting ability.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#84 - 2014-12-30 15:10:23 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Danalee wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Come on guys. The veers toon is an obvious troll. I seriously doubt he honestly believes the crap he posts.

Leto, Veers is winning... Give up.
Look at the first page on our once nice forums... Locked threads and code threads and threads getting derailed by him...
Some bigshot wrote:
This thread has gone way off topic, and is the subject of a high volume of reports, as such it's being closed.


Next thing you know, I'll need to read some serious website while at work or - GOD FORBID - update my facebook status or something.

GAME OVER MAN. GAME OVER.

D.

Bear


I honestly wonder how one guy can be permitted to derail threads over and over again without facing a loss of his posting ability.


Oh....i dont know....maybe it has to do with people here flaming anyone who dares stand up for highsec pve players? Not to mention that i stick to the topic and its the code folks who always derail
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#85 - 2014-12-30 16:24:49 UTC
Our ISD guys have a sense of humor in their own right if you know how to read between the lines.

I don't know if what veers could be doing is considered winning, but I am a tad bored of reading nothing but code threads, love em or hate em.

The idea is a great one, afk gameplay is bad for the game IMO. The code guys have made their mark on the universe and nobody can deny it.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#86 - 2014-12-30 16:40:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Renegade Heart
OP says he wants a War on Gankers then talks about CODE for the rest of his post. The failure to acknowledge the existence of non-CODE ganking entities leads me to the realisation that OP is in fact yet another CODE alt hyping up their alliance.

Any serious war on gankers would need to stop all ganking, not just the CODE ganking.

[edit] ok he mentioned it at the end, but so much CODE this and that in the post I barely noticed that lol
John E Normus
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#87 - 2014-12-30 16:57:25 UTC
How's the war going?

Between Ignorance and Wisdom

Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#88 - 2014-12-30 17:10:24 UTC
Renegade Heart wrote:
The failure to acknowledge the existence of non-CODE ganking entities


Because killboard.

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Skipper Huitzilopoch
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#89 - 2014-12-30 17:22:53 UTC
I must admit, I'm really confused about this "war on CODE". It seems, there are way too many champions on the side of anti-CODE movement. First, there's JTClone Ares, well-known rebel leader and "major pain in Code's side" (tm):
http://www.minerbumping.com/2014/12/oceans-zero-part-1.html
http://www.minerbumping.com/2014/12/oceans-zero-part-2.html

Then, there are Marmites, who officially declared their intention to "decode" the CODE by permadeccing it, eventually switching to parasitic war-ally mode to save money.

Then we have all those anti-ganking channel leaders like Jennifer and Thomas creating all those white knight fleets, well-known for their questionable efficiency.

Now what, we have another leader rising? If you ask me, lack of clear leadership, defined target and objective metrics is you current deficiency. Please, do some homework and get back with clearer plan.

Meanwhile, being "decoded" and having such terrifying opponent as JTClone Ares, in which presence CODE, as we all know, "either dock up or flee the system", CODE gathered 1tril ISK kills in December.
Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#90 - 2014-12-30 17:46:07 UTC
Skipper Huitzilopoch wrote:
anti-CODE movement.


If you want to call it a movement, I've had more impressive ones in the latrine.

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Lady Areola Fappington
#91 - 2014-12-30 18:36:07 UTC
Revis Owen wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Best of luck with your war, OP! Many have tried, and very few have succeeded.


Who would be an example of the very few who've succeeded in a war against gankers? And by what did you measure "success"?



C'mon man I was trying to be nice here....

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide

412nv Yaken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#92 - 2014-12-30 22:15:16 UTC
Sounds to me you are just another carebear hoping to constantly petition gankers to have them permabanned.

Nice plan though as CCP Falcon says, why should CCP (concord) protect you.

This so called war (tearfest) would also be a very very slippery slope to go down, considering the amount of RL threats etc we get from gank victims.

Though more power to you and im sure this time it will work, surely one out 200 attempts has too right?

A True Champion of High Security Space

Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#93 - 2014-12-30 22:20:10 UTC
412nv Yaken wrote:
Sounds to me you are just another carebear hoping to constantly petition gankers to have them permabanned.

Nice plan though as CCP Falcon says, why should CCP (concord) protect you.

This so called war (tearfest) would also be a very very slippery slope to go down, considering the amount of RL threats etc we get from gank victims.

Though more power to you and im sure this time it will work, surely one out 200 attempts has too right?


you need to work on your posting a little, coz this is all about you being butthurt.

@JerryTPepridge

Estella Osoka
Perkone
Caldari State
#94 - 2014-12-30 22:44:11 UTC
Did we really need a thread on this?

If you truly think someone is violating the rules or policies of the game then go and file a support ticket.

If you don't like the way someone is talking in local, then file a support ticket. Category will be EULA & Terms of Service. Copy the chat from local into the ticket and submit. Subject could be Violation of Rules of Conduct.

Be aware, this works both ways. So if you were both writing obscenities in chat, the GMs will know. So before you log a ticket, make sue you were not acting against the rules either.

I'll bet money that Codies could easily file more support tickets on this than miners. Miners who just got ganked tend to spurge in local more violently than any Code member I have seen.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#95 - 2014-12-31 03:17:38 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Best of luck with your war, OP! Many have tried, and very few have succeeded.

For the style of warfare you're plotting, you really need to bone up on your storytelling though. You've got to grab the attention of your audience early, and hang on to it with interesting content. Be approachable, interesting, and personable.

That's the reason James slices chatlogs up into manageable chunks. Ain't nobody got time to read a pastebin chatlog, so you gotta be good at sniffing out the most entertaining bits to present to your audience. Classy humor also helps out a BUNCH.



Beating code is not a function of killboards. They want toake pve risky in highsec. By continuing to engage in high reward low risk highsec pve you win
412nv Yaken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#96 - 2014-12-31 03:56:52 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:

Beating code is not a function because they always win


Thanks Veers

A True Champion of High Security Space

loyalanon
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#97 - 2014-12-31 04:00:59 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
. They want toake pve risky in highsec.


What is a toake?
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#98 - 2014-12-31 04:33:09 UTC
loyalanon wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
. They want toake pve risky in highsec.


What is a toake?


to make...sorry working long hours and wrote this on my phone on the train....I will expand further.

War in Eve is not similar to a RL war. When Germany invades Poland in September 1939, victory conditions are clearly set. Either Germany will conquer Poland and turn it into a vassal state, or Poland will successfully resist the invasion.

War in Eve is fundamentally different. Dying is of little consequence, there is certainly no negative infinity utility as in real life. All material losses can easily be replaced, and simply docking up and playing on alts is a perfectly viable and consequence free approach. Conquering territory is impossible in highsec, and of little consequence in nullsec. Ditto for killboard statistics.

To wit, wars between code and elite pve players are not decided by killboard statistics. Code is trying to make highsec pve unprofitable to the point where players are forced to move to low/null, while the pve players simply want to continue making isk with minimal exposure to pvp. Victory here will depend on the efficacy of code in making highsec substantially riskier for pve. Killboards and damage are irrelevant, its all about making an impact on broad highsec pve play.

Here code has failed spectacularly...missioning and inucrsioning are as lucrative as ever. Mining has been minimally impacted. And even with a bunch of hauler kills, goods are still broadly declining in price. PvE play is just as easy and profitable as ever, and code keeps on losing day in and day out. No trillion isk of damages can ever change that fact.
412nv Yaken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#99 - 2014-12-31 04:49:33 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
loyalanon wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
. They want toake pve risky in highsec.


What is a toake?


to make...sorry working long hours and wrote this on my phone on the train....I will expand further.

War in Eve is not similar to a RL war. When Germany invades Poland in September 1939, victory conditions are clearly set. Either Germany will conquer Poland and turn it into a vassal state, or Poland will successfully resist the invasion.

War in Eve is fundamentally different. Dying is of little consequence, there is certainly no negative infinity utility as in real life. All material losses can easily be replaced, and simply docking up and playing on alts is a perfectly viable and consequence free approach. Conquering territory is impossible in highsec, and of little consequence in nullsec. Ditto for killboard statistics.

To wit, wars between code and elite pve players are not decided by killboard statistics. Code is trying to make highsec pve unprofitable to the point where players are forced to move to low/null, while the pve players simply want to continue making isk with minimal exposure to pvp. Victory here will depend on the efficacy of code in making highsec substantially riskier for pve. Killboards and damage are irrelevant, its all about making an impact on broad highsec pve play.

Here code has failed spectacularly...missioning and inucrsioning are as lucrative as ever. Mining has been minimally impacted. And even with a bunch of hauler kills, goods are still broadly declining in price. PvE play is just as easy and profitable as ever, and code keeps on losing day in and day out. No trillion isk of damages can ever change that fact.


TLDR

No one likes the sound of your own voice/comments apart from you

A True Champion of High Security Space

loyalanon
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#100 - 2014-12-31 04:54:17 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
loyalanon wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
. They want toake pve risky in highsec.


What is a toake?


to make...sorry working long hours and wrote this on my phone on the train....I will expand further.

War in Eve is not similar to a RL war. When Germany invades Poland in September 1939, victory conditions are clearly set. Either Germany will conquer Poland and turn it into a vassal state, or Poland will successfully resist the invasion.

War in Eve is fundamentally different. Dying is of little consequence, there is certainly no negative infinity utility as in real life. All material losses can easily be replaced, and simply docking up and playing on alts is a perfectly viable and consequence free approach. Conquering territory is impossible in highsec, and of little consequence in nullsec. Ditto for killboard statistics.

To wit, wars between code and elite pve players are not decided by killboard statistics. Code is trying to make highsec pve unprofitable to the point where players are forced to move to low/null, while the pve players simply want to continue making isk with minimal exposure to pvp. Victory here will depend on the efficacy of code in making highsec substantially riskier for pve. Killboards and damage are irrelevant, its all about making an impact on broad highsec pve play.

Here code has failed spectacularly...missioning and inucrsioning are as lucrative as ever. Mining has been minimally impacted. And even with a bunch of hauler kills, goods are still broadly declining in price. PvE play is just as easy and profitable as ever, and code keeps on losing day in and day out. No trillion isk of damages can ever change that fact.


tldr.

https://soundcloud.com/loyalanon/veers-tears-1

remember this? and you rage logged?