Wormholes

I dont think a dev community could come up with such junk ideas considering so many other things need to be fixed in the game.

How long have pos's been screwed up? Where are alliance bookmarks? WTH have they done with the manufacturing in POS's requiring corp wallet? Where is the patch that was promised fixing the corp wallet issue? Supposedly it was going to be out in the next patch, and we are on hot fix #2 or 3 now?

Quit adding mechanics that are dumb.

Either add new crap in the game to keep us interested, or fix some crap that is long over due. Dont add crap to **** everyone off.

Give us a break, or EVE really will be dying.

I am really happy with the goal of the changes so far, i will wait for the devblog to see the actual numbers of the change as i think what i have read is a little far off what it should be.

But people should really calm down and wait for that devblog and try and work with the numbers they will be given their and improve upon what it will be.

Don't blame me because you suck balls at math.

I've been rolling holes from c3 to c5 for years.

Dear CCP

I have voiced my own opinion on this change several times now in this thread, so have many others. I did not have the time to read through all the posts here, but it seems to be out of the question that the vast majority of players are very much against this change.

I realize this is your game CCP, and you can do what you think is best, but can such a heated discussion not simply be resolved based on a player vote?

If you announce such a vote and create a simple forum poll, would that not tell you what your players really want?
Based on the outcome, you can then say you did (or hopefully did not..) change the WH spawn distance variable based on player feedback.

You cant make everyone happy, but you could at least try to make most of us happy.

Whilst your snappy comments are appreciated, your input is hardly good. Do you even live in WH? Do you expect everybody to risk capitals everytime cause the risk seems good to you. WEll fair play boy.

I dont see what is wrong with players ability to control the holes this way.

If you meet PVP entity, not even the inyourfacecollapse helps you. Saw it couple times. They just go balls in since, who cares. Now just make ships appear 100k off and let us all spin on POS.

+1 for POS ship spin counter.

Since I'm the only one commenting those ^^ Please forgive me my inactivity during the night :)

Anyway - Wormhole generator in a way of anchored module somewhere seems not a bad idea - maybe it should work in way that it would give you second or third random static... I think it could be made in a way of POS/POCO way - with RF timer and such. Additionally I would add condition: cannot anchor on grid of POS - like you said near sun would be good spot (we can use lore explanation here - huge amount of energy needed - from sun ^^)

On ship - let me be a little skeptical here - it would become perfect farming security ship - with that conditions you proposed... Place that on static and you are perfectly safe from anything jumping through there. I think your second idea is not quite we want to.

On the other hand it could be module for battleship which will give it mass of a half of carrier or dreadnought... but still that only helps to close hole.

It wont resolve any other issue - right now if you want brawl under the hole you throw big fleet on conventional logistics or if you got fewer number of ppl you throw carrier and bunch of T3s. After implementing that "strange" jump mechanic second option will be hard to do - since carrier will be dropped somewhere but for sure far from its support - it wont hit triage, since it cannot be dumped or so, but will have impact on other aspects of that kind of brawl, including applying dps or controlling range of fight (on defender side few webbing and long range scramblers and we have attackers totally controlled without chance of applying DPS), it will have great impact on tactics and doctrines used in fights in WH - will reward kiting setups, etc.

Understand me well - since I think new mechanic is BAD idea, I think ppl will adapt if it will be released, but that adaptation could be something that will ruin our quite well working environment.

Dear CCP - we can adapt and we will if you hit us with those changes. Main issue here is that if you really care about our opinion you should maybe ask CSM WH Representative or us, as ppl using WH-space on daily basis what we think about that kind of change. I'm certain we can came to some conclusions or even throw few nice ideas at you (not everyone can come to Fanfest you know).
Because right now your image looks like this: you are just a bunch of ppl who does not playing game you designed and few ppl came to your ranks from null-sec power-block environment, and you all simply do not care for W-Space environment since we are few in numbers on a map of New Eden - after all ppl lives mainly in k-space... Why I'm writing this? Because I could bet with you that if you would be considering some cyno, bridge, station, gate mechanic change it would be consulted with CSM and with community before changes hit SISI.
And form my point of view - if you will mess up W-Space (It is my home for like 4 years now - and I was in Hi-sec and null earlier - there is no other place for me) - it will be clear sign for me that I should reconsider my interest in your game, and maybe go play some other during my wait for Star Citizen (this is not some blackmail or something just an neutral info BTW) and I think many ppl will do same thing.

Extremely bad idea CCP please don't do it. Who ever came up with this need's there head examined!!!
Give us more Content please......

Yes, tweeking these numbers would be a far better solution

Personally, I'd like to see people come out the other side of a wormhole at incredible speeds and have to slow down and turn around.

Jumping through and appearing at 0m/s is more painful to accept than having moved away from the hole you just got sucked through.

Also, how is any of this surprising? CCP Built wormhole space for you to go explore and if you're brave, make isk.

It was not designed with the purpose of supporting life for long periods of time. Ragerolling is a way to 'force the mechanic' that spawns new holes. Fairly sure it's possible to consider this 'exploitation of game mechanics' if I really had a bad day and "someone's going to get hurt!".

in favor of seeing people arrive the other side of a hole already moving and lockable tbh. Not sure randomly spawning @ 40km away from the hole but moving 0m/s is very adventurous. Sounds more like a wonderful 'bubble avoidance'.

There are reason but i don't know if you would think they are good or not. Basically it's going to benefit cloaky hunters quite a lot and big groups won't be able to use range rolling to get easy cap kills or find invasion systems as effectively.

To move the discussion on, we all need to accept that rolling with capitals will no longer be viable, so with that out the way, what are the remaining problems?