Wormholes

You obviously are.





I was until I read this peice of trash. Who in CCP that actually plays in wormhole space thought this was a good idea? Like really? You say you guys play the game...... And then you release ideas like this. Do you only play Dota like half your bored player base? Because the other half is likely to join them if this is a sign of things to come.

I mean, I know chitsa posted it at one point. But even at that point you all should have know he was so bad any idea he posts is like asking a 2year old how to do your taxes. I mean really, get a grip guys.

Ahh, I understand. Rather sage advice, I suppose, if I ever want to sperge on the forums.

Cheers!

So your complaint is that you have to risk something for a short time?

Here's what would have happened. You would have jumped the WH, webbed and bounced to a spot 200km away, then webbed and bounced back and closed the WH. That's it. Unless the Ixtab fleet was on the WH itself, in which case you never would have jumped anyway, nothing changes.

What we did ask for to improve WH dynamics as a community was a rollback of the autoloading of sigs. What we wanted was to have to scan for sigs in order to see them. Yet this one request is blatantly ignored and instead some other silly mechanic is put together in an so called effort to improve PVP.

Why not see what will happen when you give us what we all are asking for instead? Rollback some of the bad changes, work on the requests and see if WH space becomes what you seem to be looking for. All these changes have failed to improve WH dynamics. All they have done is make sure that to survive you just need to become a bigger fish.

You want gank content? then put Ore sites back as a sig and I would put a barge out there... as it is now I do not even bother. As for running sites, then make it so sigs don't show up if you do not have probes out looking for them. Amazing how many site runners we used to catch before you did away with that one. This change, like the non-probable sig delay, does nothing to help find fights or create them.

We have as a community attempted to give you good suggestions in the past and are consistently ignored. Perhaps if your company was customer focused they would realize that there are some good suggestions out there that need to be worked on. Give us more content, more things to do with the content we have in WH space and you just might find more people willing to enter WH space which would improve the opportunities for PVP.

they don't need a gang to stop you combat rolling after change, they need 1 cloaky interceptor with 2 scrams on it and boosts in system, your day is now ruined by a single ship that costs 50m.


how do you not see that?


the time to scan the wh down is the same btw.

how the hell are you in a 50man corp and don't absolutely hate this idea the moment you see it

Its because BayneNothos imagines he will be the inty that catches some 10 person corp rolling. He's ignoring the issue of whether or not there will be any sub 50 person fleets rolling holes after this proposed change.

I defiantly feel like this will majorly hurt smaller w-space corps, further pushing members into already established existing entities, long term this probably means a lot of stagnation to w-space, over crowding in those same previously established corps, and the rapid decline of new blood to w-space in general. This will push new curious players into a follower role as opposed to a content creating role. Smaller corps will have serious issues with this change, and will most likely lead to there destruction. There are many PVP oriented corps in all classes of w-space, who rely on rage rolling for content creation, and income. W-space has been undergoing huge changes in terms of residents, corporations and alliances, in the last year and change already, with the fall and disillusion of many larger entities. I cannot see how this could possibly be a benefit to anyone. Just a serious detriment to up and coming corps or anyone wanting to establish a new presence in w-space, witch is already very hard.

This seems to just be another fine example of CCP wishy washy, lack of direction in regards to w-space. This is clearly a huge advantage to defenders, obviously reducing the use of capitals, increasing there losses drastically, and reducing the amount of PVE that a lot of corps can perform to replace the previously mentioned inevitable increase in cap losses. If you absolutely must change spawn ranges for w-space it should be MUCH more conservative, for the thousand reasons already pointed out that i wont bother to quote. Normally i try to put something constructive in with my bitching but i honestly cant think of anything that could make this viable without totally changing the face of PVP and PVE in w-space. Not to mention the obvious and serious advantages this gives low/null sec'rs over wh'rs. Basically this will would destroy PVP, PVE, and SRP programs....

You want to change stuff in w-space FIX POS's and CORP ROLES! **** the rest, get your act together and fix the things that people have been complaining about for literally YEARS. CCP PLEASE pull your head out of your asses, and listen to your players if you want to keep them.

IMO w-space is the least broken space in all of eve, is your goal to make it as broken and dysfunctional as everywhere else?

Id also like to note that this is a conflict with the lore of a wormhole. With star gates your forced into warp and cast across great distances within an approximate landing area, WH's on the other hand are a point to point tunnel, there should be no way you could just appear up to 40km from the exit.

I'm sorry if my post was unclear I guess I was leaving a lot to the imagination. Often we will connect OR be connected to by a large wormhole corp capable of fielding 30+ with caps. This is not something we can fight beyond trying to snake a scanner kill or someone too far from their hole to receive help. We are a much smaller corp. At that point we prep up for a quick close so we can continue our day. If we were to pop out in their system 40km off the hole with our Orcas we would never attempt to close on a force that large it is suicide. So the only option is to let it close naturally.
We are quite capable pilots, but numbers are numbers. This change could effectively kill our corps activity 100% some days.

Dear CCP. What you're doing is called procrastination. Stop making up useless stuff and go work on poses and other important things players begging you to change for years. *facepalm*