Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'm arguing that the planned incarnation of the DST is not viable. I know the Orca is an uber hauler. Too bad that's really not what its intended role is.

I just believe that a 150 to 200k tanky T2 hauler would be something that would be easier for low SP players to work their way into, as well as veterans who don't want to have a freighter languishing in high sec unused. As I said in my first post, I have a Bustard, an Orca and a freighter and, in general, if I can't haul it in a T1 hauler, I pay for professionals to move it.

Can you show me a fit where the Orca has 92k m3 of cargo capacity and 200k EHP at the same time? Am I cheating myself of potential bonuses by fitting sub-optimally?

cargo rig your orca, then tank it normally.

regular cargo + fleet hangar hit ~100k, and your ehp is still over 200k. armour penalties on the orca's ehp are negligible.

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also not quite the 100k cargo, but still over 200k ehp and aligns in 10 sec (all hail the 100mn mwd)

no, for the same reason that the hoarder is 400k m3.

nope, it was only 400k when it got the specialised ammo hold.

It seems CCP is missing one, very important and obvious point. While you're on DSTs, it would be nice to repeat what you've done to industrials, which are;

- Fixing useless transport ship bonuses by;
1- Integrating speed bonus into hull, replacing it with something more useful.
2- Replacing %7,5 shield boosting bonus to %10 MMJD spool-up time reduction or something more appropriate to fit to transports' new role/capabilities.

I use a mastodon, it is shield tank by nature, so I suggest %7,5 to shield capacity per level or %7,5 to passive shield recharge rate per level.

Even you don't like any suggestions above, it is for sure that current dst bonus is outdated. At least speed one.

Candidates for speed bonus are a lot:
- %N Agility per level for faster aligning
- %N Warp speed per level. Speed --> Warp Speed. It doesn't seem that bad? Eh?
- %N medium projectile turret damage per level (mastodon fighting for freedom!)
- Fleet hangar capacity per level
- %N Signature radius reduction per level
- %N Deflection of capacitor destabilizer amount per level
- %20 reduction of movement impairing effects per level
- etc..

But, not speed.

Not caught up yet, but here: Mastodon pilot myself. Well prowler really, but will be picking one up after the changes for hauling ore through a few jumps with scout.

Note on the shield tanking bit. It is shield tanked, but gets velocity bonus/is meant to be used with prop mods like an AB/MJD. With a 10mn AB, it moves at a blistering 325m/seconds. With T2 speed rigs, and nothing but overdrive injectors, you manage an absolutely blazing 456m/s. Quafe Zero brings this up to 479m/s. Too bad a single web will make it impossible to really burn out of a bubble. But to fit two prop mods with only 3 slots to shield tank is kind of ridiculous.

Honestly, the ability to fit an oversized AB would be very nice. 100mn AB clocks in at like ~700m/sec. With the overdrive injectors, speed rigs, and quafe you can get it just over 1km/sec. Which would be beautiful for burning out of bubbles/ect.

But yeah basically a single dictor with bubble/scram can pin you down, and being held down by a single ship while you slowboat through 3 bubbles minimum is kind of crazy for a ship that is supposed to be good at getting out of dangerous situations. Burning back to gate can be a joke too depending on the situation.

Suggestions:

1. Take away the speed bonus and give a % reduction on powergrid needs for prop mods, with lvl 4 being enough to fit a 100mn AB on it, so a single web isn't enough to make your life miserable and burning out of bubbles actually becomes possible if scrammed. Or give it a role bonus that makes MWDs immune to scrams, not MJDs though. This would be a nice alternative to bubble nullification, since it would make the tank actually worth while, as you could tank through bubbles and get out if only 1-2 people were holding you down. You'd still die to a dedicated camp.

2. Increase medium slot layout to like 5 slots please.

3. Possibly role bonus that reduces the effect of webs.

4. More highslots and bonus to smartbomb range and damage to clear drones/scram tackle on you.

You want a heavy armored transport than shouldn't be afraid of one or two people in tackle ships on a gate. That is an amazing idea I've always loved. Tank is wonderful, but without the speed to get through it, or a way to get a scram off you, it won't work, because by time you are out of the bubbles help has arrived or the dictor has managed to reload bubbles and you have to start over again.

web immunity (or % reduction) + ability to fit 100mn ab (with fitting sacrifices) would rock. gets the job done with a totally different gameplay style to BRs.

Played around again. Overheated 10MN AB gets you to 534m/s. Overheated MWD gets to 1500+km/s. You're not hitting that speed until three cycles go by. If you have to burn back to the gate good luck to you.

Is it possible to put the Deep Space Transporter in my Ship Hangar, if there is anything except ammonation in the FLEET hangar?

May I able to expand the cargohold of an Orca by 50k m³ with the fleet hangar or a DST?