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[Kronos] Medium Micro Jump Drives

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Suitonia
Order of the Red Kestrel
#61 - 2014-05-17 18:39:25 UTC
I pretty much agree with Elise. I don't think this will change much for the Attack Battlecruisers. I think it is also questionable giving the ability to Command Ships as they are also really strong right now.

I think this would be great on the Combat Battlecruisers though, HML Drakes, Arty Hurricanes, FEROXES, etc. are outclassed by Sniper T3s/CS/Attack BCs, and it would give them a new niche, and also allowing some close range Combat BCs the option to escape like Brutix / Harbinger could be fun.

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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#62 - 2014-05-17 18:41:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Arya Regnar
Adrie Atticus wrote:
MMJD should be affected by long points and bubbles.

Reasons for this are already posted.

WORD

Make it so longpoints and bubbles disrupt MMJD (except on deep space transports, they need some kind of edge since they are so useless).

Please don't break game CCP.

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Kat Ayclism
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2014-05-17 18:42:46 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Eagerly awaiting my alliance's horrid loss of Vultures too slow at trying to mjd when they are getting bombed. *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#64 - 2014-05-17 18:43:29 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Chitsa Jason wrote:
The issue with BCs has allways been bomber fleets. MJD thing alleviates that issue a bit but I do think it is a step in wrong direction as it promotes less kill mail for medium gangs. so basically **** this change.


what if they reduced the resistance bombs have to 90% or something that way you would reach a finite amount of bombs before they start to kill themselves.


You already do.
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2014-05-17 18:44:14 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal. BC overshadowd by Battleships? Battleships only shadow asteroids as PVP capabilities. THey are already weak andyou are giving BC the only advantage taht battleships REALLY had? (because NO a bit mor EHP does nto pay off the smaller speed, worse align, WAY WAY worse tracking and damage application).



Battleships need help not less reasons to be used. I think has been a few months since I saw any non pirate battleship in PVP that was not a Domi or Geddon.


I know BC have almost vanished as well. But that is because their warp speed does nto allow them to support cruisers.


The commands ships are not even sued to give link bonuses for a single reason, they cannot keep up with cruisers whiel the t3 can. THe smaller fleet bonus is NOTHING compared to that.


Want BC size hulls more relevant? Increase their warp speed ( specially command ships.. these NEEED to be 3 au/s)

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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#66 - 2014-05-17 18:46:02 UTC
twit brent wrote:
This would only be a good idea if long points disabled them.

Needing tackle to get within scram range of battle cruisers is all kinds of stupid.



No longpoitns disablign them would negate compeltely the module. They were created because Battleships were USELES and had no advantage. Now they are giving that advantage to another category, making Battleships irrelevant again unless they are domi or geddon

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#67 - 2014-05-17 18:52:14 UTC
Arronicus wrote:
Michael Harari wrote:
Mike Azariah wrote:
Battlecruisers, BC's

reading, folks. It does help.

any of you picturing quick jumps to get those darn snipers 100km off the gate?

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And what if they are 120km away instead, and have their own mjd?


Then they better start spooling their MJD as soon as we start spooling ours, because it's not going to take more than 8 seconds to get into scram range and tackle one with a talos overheating the mwd and scram.


So you run mjd mwd longpoint scram sebo talos?

It has only 4 mids
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#68 - 2014-05-17 18:53:14 UTC
Arya Regnar wrote:
Adrie Atticus wrote:
MMJD should be affected by long points and bubbles.

Reasons for this are already posted.

WORD

Make it so longpoints and bubbles disrupt MMJD (except on deep space transports, they need some kind of edge since they are so useless.

Please don't break game CCP.


No. The whole point of the module is to get you outside of the bubble. It is not that hard to get a scram on something.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Bland Inquisitor
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#69 - 2014-05-17 18:53:59 UTC
if we could go back to warping at 10km from gates instead of 0km that would be great.
ConranAntoni
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#70 - 2014-05-17 18:55:20 UTC
Looks amazing, do it, do it.

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Reppyk
The Black Shell
#71 - 2014-05-17 18:55:52 UTC
I do NOT support at all this change.

The warp speed change (16s deceleration on grid, +the lock time. Any plated BS can warp off in 11s, meaning it's impossible to fight someone that is not AFK) and the removing of the tiers already nerfed a lot the battleship class.

The MJD is the only thing that allows them to still be usable, outside of big blobs. You can snipe with it, you can go ball deeps with it, you can force the opponent to get in scramble range to stop you.

Battlecruisers are much better than BS to fight into scramble range due to their medium guns.

This is a bad, bad idea.

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X4m
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2014-05-17 18:58:00 UTC
when small mjd? Stupid change
Saul Elsyn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#73 - 2014-05-17 18:59:33 UTC
I think people that are complaining the most here are forgetting just how situationally based MJDs are. They're good for getting out of bubbles and escaping bombing runs, but that's about it... And they require a level of skill and situational awareness to use. Considering it's the smallest ships that are the ones most likely to die in a bombing run, good for CCP... in fact CCP, give em to cruiser hulls in general.

What's the Small Micro-Jump Drive going to be mounted on? Destroyers? Cruisers? HACs? HICs? Interdictors? Makes you wonder.
Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
#74 - 2014-05-17 19:01:28 UTC
Gave it some thought, don't like the idea at all.

This will especially hurt the solo/kiting sort of guys who already have a hard time finding suitable fights ...
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#75 - 2014-05-17 19:03:03 UTC
Saul Elsyn wrote:
I think people that are complaining the most here are forgetting just how situationally based MJDs are. They're good for getting out of bubbles and escaping bombing runs, but that's about it... And they require a level of skill and situational awareness to use. Considering it's the smallest ships that are the ones most likely to die in a bombing run, good for CCP... in fact CCP, give em to cruiser hulls in general.

What's the Small Micro-Jump Drive going to be mounted on? Destroyers? Cruisers? HACs? HICs? Interdictors? Makes you wonder.



Waht? Require skill? Panick pressign a button then warpign to a station is NOT skill.

It will make solo and double team pvp even harder than it is now.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Myrthiis
Boon Odd Ducks Bath Toys
#76 - 2014-05-17 19:03:24 UTC
Useless,unwanted and unbalanced module .
Calsys
Monks of War
#77 - 2014-05-17 19:03:40 UTC
Ab'del Abu wrote:
Gave it some thought, don't like the idea at all.

This will especially hurt the solo/kiting sort of guys who already have a hard time finding suitable fights ...

its hard to find this fights now
its impossible to find it later

great job!

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DIE!

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Alghara
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
Goonswarm Federation
#78 - 2014-05-17 19:13:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Alghara
Fozzie ....

Do you play still at EVE ?

I am not sure.

CCP have try to balanced the ship since 2 years right now and with the three last patch and the new announcement your break completely the game.

Drone : Make modification on drone it's good idea, but when you authorise to use the damage mode on fighter and fighter bomber you are completely becoming to break the balance. That will be drone land.

Carrier was logistic ship not attack ship.
Mothership must be only anti capital ship.

Micro jump drive : You have introduce the micro jump drive, because you have make some modification on the probing, the probing have completely remove the snipe fleet. But in the same time you completely kill the disrupt and the bubble. The original problem is only the time we make to probe a fleet ...

Inty : Nullifier, again the main problem with inty was too weak. it's not difficult to understand why. If you give some bonus on ship without buffer, it's absolutely not efficient. Reduce the sig or add some bonus and resistance is only efficient when you have a minimum of buffer. The inty need only to have more buffer without penality on the speed to be more efficient. With the bonus on the nullifier you have began to broke the balancing. And again dictor and hid was less useful.

Eve become to be boring because not a lot of ship are slow (hull higher than BC). With the new hull of freighter that will be terrible.

Do you seriously play to EVE or do you seriously understand what is balancing.
Yazzinra
Scorpion Ventures
#79 - 2014-05-17 19:24:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Yazzinra
MJD on BS was a good idea, and I still support it.

This is not, for reasons already stated. If you must go through with it, can you buff the EHP of my ares? if I'm going to have to fly into scram range of everything, I'd at least like to pretend I can survive there.

edit: punctuation matters.
Rainbow Eyes
Sora no Otoshimano
#80 - 2014-05-17 19:25:15 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Cancel subscribe. This is imbalance, you kill kite ships and ships with WarpDis. Nevermind. Non interdiction Tier3 BC fleet.
*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

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