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Miner Bumping, Ganking and the activities of James 315 and the New Order of Highsec.

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Ressiv
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#161 - 2013-09-04 10:44:03 UTC
Peit Dowkol wrote:

4. I often ask my local fellow miners if they’d like to fleet. It’s a friendly gesture, since we both make more ISK and I’ve always paid the communication fee for new contacts. Generally I’m met with suspicion, stony silence or a few lame excuses. Sure, I understand that my fellow miner may not understand English, or that they may only be online a little while longer ….but Jeez…no wonder we’re a hunted bunch.


You are aware that you can shoot fleetmembers without concord bothering to check if this friendly fire truly IS friendly ?
Ressiv
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#162 - 2013-09-04 10:56:16 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Guarding miners is just as boring, really, but generally the guards should be getting compensated.

You can not compensate permanent brain damage.
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#163 - 2013-09-04 14:05:21 UTC
Yi-Ming Gren wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
You, sir, are a model other miners should emulate.

You are playing EVE, not ISK Progressquest.

If your competition are causing you trouble, sit next to them in a Skiff and tell the Order you'll provide warpins.


How? been trying to for a while, even posted in your forums asking the same question. Send me a mail or eve mail of a contact window, the AFK miners and muti-boxers in my area are getting out of hand I am training up a ganker of my own, but it's far from ready.

Pfeils Goodman & Laurianne Leone, love your posts in this thread, your patience and explanation on how afk (botting) can kill a game on outstanding.

Your powers of necromancy are fearsome.

But in a good cause. Blink
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#164 - 2013-09-04 14:11:16 UTC
Ange Noire wrote:

So James 315, his mate, their code, they can go to hell, i really don't care about them !

That's fine. You may not believe in the Code, but the Code believes in you. Agents of the CODE are seeking you even now, to bring you the good news.
Ange Noire
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#165 - 2013-09-04 16:01:24 UTC
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Ange Noire wrote:

So James 315, his mate, their code, they can go to hell, i really don't care about them !

That's fine. You may not believe in the Code, but the Code believes in you. Agents of the CODE are seeking you even now, to bring you the good news.


I am harder to bite than a mining barge.

You can hide it behind all the lame roleplay or false religion that you want, the truth is that you do it because you find it funny and don't want to take any risk in low/null sec. Nothing else than that don't pretend to be saviors of anything that just laughtable.

Game Mechanics allow you to do that, you've learn how to dodge concord or pull them far enough to prenvent them to come in time.
But it's a PvE fight. shooting at an unarmed barge after pulling some NPC ? you call it PvP ?
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#166 - 2013-09-04 16:29:07 UTC
Ange Noire wrote:
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Ange Noire wrote:

So James 315, his mate, their code, they can go to hell, i really don't care about them !

That's fine. You may not believe in the Code, but the Code believes in you. Agents of the CODE are seeking you even now, to bring you the good news.


I am harder to bite than a mining barge.

You can hide it behind all the lame roleplay or false religion that you want, the truth is that you do it because you find it funny and don't want to take any risk in low/null sec. Nothing else than that don't pretend to be saviors of anything that just laughtable.

Game Mechanics allow you to do that, you've learn how to dodge concord or pull them far enough to prenvent them to come in time.
But it's a PvE fight. shooting at an unarmed barge after pulling some NPC ? you call it PvP ?


The problem is you think the PvP started when the ganker pressed F1.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#167 - 2013-09-04 16:35:49 UTC
Ange Noire wrote:
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Ange Noire wrote:

So James 315, his mate, their code, they can go to hell, i really don't care about them !

That's fine. You may not believe in the Code, but the Code believes in you. Agents of the CODE are seeking you even now, to bring you the good news.


I am harder to bite than a mining barge.

You can hide it behind all the lame roleplay or false religion that you want, the truth is that you do it because you find it funny and don't want to take any risk in low/null sec. Nothing else than that don't pretend to be saviors of anything that just laughtable.

Game Mechanics allow you to do that, you've learn how to dodge concord or pull them far enough to prenvent them to come in time.
But it's a PvE fight. shooting at an unarmed barge after pulling some NPC ? you call it PvP ?

Please.
You post like you know me. You know nothing. It's clear you haven't even looked up the publicly available information on me. That's just lazy.

Meanwhile, I'm in your head, pushing your buttons. Which of us has the upper hand?
Ange Noire
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#168 - 2013-09-04 17:09:17 UTC
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Ange Noire wrote:
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Ange Noire wrote:

So James 315, his mate, their code, they can go to hell, i really don't care about them !

That's fine. You may not believe in the Code, but the Code believes in you. Agents of the CODE are seeking you even now, to bring you the good news.


I am harder to bite than a mining barge.

You can hide it behind all the lame roleplay or false religion that you want, the truth is that you do it because you find it funny and don't want to take any risk in low/null sec. Nothing else than that don't pretend to be saviors of anything that just laughtable.

Game Mechanics allow you to do that, you've learn how to dodge concord or pull them far enough to prenvent them to come in time.
But it's a PvE fight. shooting at an unarmed barge after pulling some NPC ? you call it PvP ?

Please.
You post like you know me. You know nothing. It's clear you haven't even looked up the publicly available information on me. That's just lazy.

Meanwhile, I'm in your head, pushing your buttons. Which of us has the upper hand?


Seems that i hit the sensible case. you know what ? only truth hurts. False religion for joking and trolling at best, or a bunch of totaly nuts griefers, in anyway, the result is the same. Without hisec miners, you'll never have anything to fly on. They are part of the economy and really don't need a crazy sheperd coming from god know where.
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#169 - 2013-09-04 17:20:02 UTC
Ange Noire wrote:
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Ange Noire wrote:
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Ange Noire wrote:

So James 315, his mate, their code, they can go to hell, i really don't care about them !

That's fine. You may not believe in the Code, but the Code believes in you. Agents of the CODE are seeking you even now, to bring you the good news.


I am harder to bite than a mining barge.

You can hide it behind all the lame roleplay or false religion that you want, the truth is that you do it because you find it funny and don't want to take any risk in low/null sec. Nothing else than that don't pretend to be saviors of anything that just laughtable.

Game Mechanics allow you to do that, you've learn how to dodge concord or pull them far enough to prenvent them to come in time.
But it's a PvE fight. shooting at an unarmed barge after pulling some NPC ? you call it PvP ?

Please.
You post like you know me. You know nothing. It's clear you haven't even looked up the publicly available information on me. That's just lazy.

Meanwhile, I'm in your head, pushing your buttons. Which of us has the upper hand?


Seems that i hit the sensible case. you know what ? only truth hurts. False religion for joking and trolling at best, or a bunch of totaly nuts griefers, in anyway, the result is the same. Without hisec miners, you'll never have anything to fly on. They are part of the economy and really don't need a crazy sheperd coming from god know where.
Yup. Definately inside your head, pushing your buttons.
Forum PVP: I win.
Cool

You'll look less silly once you've done your homework.
Ange Noire
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#170 - 2013-09-04 17:40:05 UTC
Like your shepperd, that is the "savior" in his dreams, you won battle that take place on your head only. Forum PvP looks even more safer than hisec ganking. the next step is slaping babies.

But farther than you own person or mine, we all know the truth : no "god", no savior, no belief. Just a band of ppl who find their fun in the way of griefing others. You play that way for the illusion of power that it give to you, because everytime someone give you his money, you are not happy to "save" him but to looks him bow at you. You are looking like a sect for me. Power hungry and maybe, if you believe a second what you say (what i doubt) totally out of sanity.

I can't stop laughing when i see you all trying to justify yourself.
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#171 - 2013-09-04 17:42:19 UTC
Ange Noire wrote:

I can't stop laughing when i see you all trying to justify yourself.

See, this is the funniest part. I'm not a member of the New Order. Not even an egent. If you'd bothered to do your research, even in *this* thread, you'd have known that.

Hook, line, and sinker. How does it feel to be a fish?
Ange Noire
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#172 - 2013-09-04 17:56:35 UTC
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Ange Noire wrote:

I can't stop laughing when i see you all trying to justify yourself.

See, this is the funniest part. I'm not a member of the New Order. Not even an egent. If you'd bothered to do your research, even in *this* thread, you'd have known that.

Hook, line, and sinker. How does it feel to be a fish?


And ? you expressed your point of view, i expressed mine. that you are actually part or just agree with them or even just doing this for the sake of being a "forum warrior" whatever. the result is the same, you/they can do it because the game allow it, but trying to justify it by a "religious" belief, or roleplay is weird.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#173 - 2013-09-04 23:41:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Ange Noire wrote:
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Ange Noire wrote:

I can't stop laughing when i see you all trying to justify yourself.

See, this is the funniest part. I'm not a member of the New Order. Not even an egent. If you'd bothered to do your research, even in *this* thread, you'd have known that.

Hook, line, and sinker. How does it feel to be a fish?


And ? you expressed your point of view, i expressed mine. that you are actually part or just agree with them or even just doing this for the sake of being a "forum warrior" whatever. the result is the same, you/they can do it because the game allow it, but trying to justify it by a "religious" belief, or roleplay is weird.

Did you somehow miss the bit where the religious zealotry and roleplay are satire? Not to mention really really effective at producing hilarious chat logs.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Yi-Ming Gren
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#174 - 2013-09-05 01:08:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Yi-Ming Gren
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Yi-Ming Gren wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
You, sir, are a model other miners should emulate.

You are playing EVE, not ISK Progressquest.

If your competition are causing you trouble, sit next to them in a Skiff and tell the Order you'll provide warpins.


How? been trying to for a while, even posted in your forums asking the same question. Send me a mail or eve mail of a contact window, the AFK miners and muti-boxers in my area are getting out of hand I am training up a ganker of my own, but it's far from ready.

Pfeils Goodman & Laurianne Leone, love your posts in this thread, your patience and explanation on how afk (botting) can kill a game on outstanding.

Your powers of necromancy are fearsome.

But in a good cause. Blink



New to eve, so I read the threads from the start, I have a lot too catch up on. Big smile
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#175 - 2013-09-05 01:09:18 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Ange Noire wrote:
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Ange Noire wrote:

I can't stop laughing when i see you all trying to justify yourself.

See, this is the funniest part. I'm not a member of the New Order. Not even an egent. If you'd bothered to do your research, even in *this* thread, you'd have known that.

Hook, line, and sinker. How does it feel to be a fish?


And ? you expressed your point of view, i expressed mine. that you are actually part or just agree with them or even just doing this for the sake of being a "forum warrior" whatever. the result is the same, you/they can do it because the game allow it, but trying to justify it by a "religious" belief, or roleplay is weird.

Did you somehow miss the bit where the religious zealotry and roleplay are satire? Not to mention really really effective at producing hilarious chat logs.

This. ^

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc
Yi-Ming Gren
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#176 - 2013-09-05 01:23:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Yi-Ming Gren
[/quote]

I am harder to bite than a mining barge.

You can hide it behind all the lame roleplay or false religion that you want, the truth is that you do it because you find it funny and don't want to take any risk in low/null sec. Nothing else than that don't pretend to be saviors of anything that just laughtable.

Game Mechanics allow you to do that, you've learn how to dodge concord or pull them far enough to prenvent them to come in time.
But it's a PvE fight. shooting at an unarmed barge after pulling some NPC ? you call it PvP ?[/quote]


I know I am new and all, but in PVE the ships do not shoot back at the players?
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#177 - 2013-09-05 03:37:53 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
The problem is you think the PvP started when the ganker pressed F1.



Some people think PvP starts when the shooting begins.

I like to think the PvP starts when I log in and ends when downtime happens..........

Cool

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

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Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#178 - 2013-09-05 04:38:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Omar Alharazaad
I think the RP aspect is very relevant actually, and DOES justify this activity. HiSec, without any element of risk, can be pretty boring. New Order and their band of merry murderers are spicing things up in the systems they operate in by adding risk to a profession that is so damned boring it's not funny.

RP aside, they're also doing a favor to those who actively mine... while at their keys, for the minerals they need. It can be infuriating as a miner who's trying to eke out a living by harvesting some resources for their industrial projects, only to have a swarm of afk bot-wannabes drop into their belt and procede to devour all the roids in record time.

Rather than whinge, criticize or suggest these folks go to null/lowsec my recommendation is to adapt. If you must think of mining as a PVE activity, don't forget the E part of that. Your environment is more than the pretty space backdrop you float in, the other players in the game do influence it. If you fail to adapt to changes in said environment then you are going to have a a hard time with it.

Personally, I've never had a barge/exhumer ganked, but that's not for lack of trying. On the occasions I've had folks try generally by the time they started locking onto me I was already well into warping away. The only reason I wasn't space junk in those situations is that I never for one second assumed I was safe. I have to admit, it also made mining almost exciting when that happened tho. Not afraid of losing my ship any more, more worried about getting popped while driving something that's shitfit, as it's just embarrassing.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Robbin Sund
#179 - 2013-09-05 09:32:13 UTC
Ressiv wrote:
Peit Dowkol wrote:

4. I often ask my local fellow miners if they’d like to fleet. It’s a friendly gesture, since we both make more ISK and I’ve always paid the communication fee for new contacts. Generally I’m met with suspicion, stony silence or a few lame excuses. Sure, I understand that my fellow miner may not understand English, or that they may only be online a little while longer ….but Jeez…no wonder we’re a hunted bunch.


You are aware that you can shoot fleetmembers without concord bothering to check if this friendly fire truly IS friendly ?


HM? the warninglabel that comes up, not sure if I missread it all along, but I think it states that concord will shoot you if you do illegal actions against fleetm8s.
So if your not in the same corp the police will brutally smash you down,

One way trip! Why dont you drive?
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#180 - 2013-09-05 09:50:31 UTC
Ange Noire wrote:
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Ange Noire wrote:

So James 315, his mate, their code, they can go to hell, i really don't care about them !

That's fine. You may not believe in the Code, but the Code believes in you. Agents of the CODE are seeking you even now, to bring you the good news.


I am harder to bite than a mining barge.

You can hide it behind all the lame roleplay or false religion that you want, the truth is that you do it because you find it funny and don't want to take any risk in low/null sec. Nothing else than that don't pretend to be saviors of anything that just laughtable.

Game Mechanics allow you to do that, you've learn how to dodge concord or pull them far enough to prenvent them to come in time.
But it's a PvE fight. shooting at an unarmed barge after pulling some NPC ? you call it PvP ?



You mining scum PVP every time you interact with the market and think you are invincible.

We are here to tell you your attacks on the EVE economy will not go unanswered.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com