Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Glad to see the Munin getting a velocity buff, I which I could have used it with the dual nuets though.

But what's up with the vagabond speed nerf and tank buff? and really what's with speed nerfs to minmatar ships in general?

Stabber lost it's velocity mod
Vigile lost it's velocity mod
the cane lost a high and gained a low, I'm under the impression nano ships don't work so well without dual nuets. So this pretty much makes it an armor tanker.

I love minmatar ships specifically because they're effectiveness is solely dependent on their maneuverability.

Actually I'm teching up for T2 cruisers right now, and no nav 5 = 125% to base speed

239 X nav 5 1.25 = 298 X vags 1.25x speed bonus = 373.4

So, make all Hacs for blob ware fare, and completely ignore small-scale stuff? yep sounds good.

Someone needs to review the Eve Turret Tracking Formula. For reference the bit you want to look for is where weapon signature resolution and target signature resolution are in a ratio to determine how tracking is affected.

So a 50% radius reduction means you're 50% harder to track.

Or run an AAR?

They just buffed your local rep power so you should need to run your reps less and you have better cap and cap regen meaning less need for cap boosters in general. It's not like they switched tank types on you or something. You could always active tank a Deimos and you can still buffer or resist fit it, it's active tank just got better.

If every ship gave you everything you wanted there wouldn't be any trade-offs.

Don't worry, that vagafit is wrong to start with :) Do it right, fit an AB, not an invuln, and two gyros/two TEs so your tracking isn't straight out of hades.

Its the Cruiser skill that gave the bonus to speed.

Phaade was right the whole idead of that post of mine is that the cerbus should be pigeon hole into one dmg
give 10%knetic or 7.5% knetic and only %5 to all others i dont mind!!

btw is it just me or does
https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Mournful%20Conciousness

look alittle like keanu reeves

HMM!!!


btw i just mentioned cap cause alot of peeps double or tripple rep and sac just like a myrm atleast in the past :)

Vaga 5th mid... how can you call something "specialized" when T1 ships are better than it in it's "specialized" role... Seriously?

Ishtar bonuses: You are a genius! Take one bonus and divide it into two! :|

Other than that everything is great.

Don't forget the global buff to armor repair modules! :D (and active armor tankers everywhere went "wait, we missed that bit!" and there was much rejoicing)



Okay, I am going to step through this to try to explain why this is a 50% tank buff using a Tech 1 10MN Micro Warpdrive.

First off, yes, any increase in signature radius increases your chances to be hit. However any increase in speed decreases these chances (the first bit of the formula) by increasing your traversal on the target.

A Tech1 Microwarpdrive increases your velocity by 500% and also increases your Signature Radius by 500%. This means that overall you don't actually gain much in terms of tank but you do gain a little at very close ranges.

If you cut the signature increase in half then suddenly you have quite a good ratio of sig increase to traversal with the advantage that you can still kite and maintain range on your opponent quite effectively.

If you use a Faction or Deadspace MWD that already has a bonus to its MWD sig bloom or max speed increase then you're looking at an even more effective trade-off.

As to your mathematical concerns, there are no infinities anywhere in that equation because most programming math libraries will evaluate 0/X as 0, not infinity.

Second, the whole formula in parentheses is the exponent of 0.5, meaning a smaller target is, in-fact, harder to hit than a bigger one, however if the transversal is zero the entire thing comes out to x^0 = 1 anyway so your example is moot.

Specifically addressing your Talos related concerns... One, that's not how the tracking formula works, two, yes frigates are always going to be better at speed tanking larger guns, they're smaller and faster than other ships. Speed-tanking HACs have already proven to be hilariously effective in small fleets though and this will be even more effective against your hypothetical Talos because they'll be able to out-run him and keep range on his guns more effectively than if they were AB fit against a MWD fit Talos with webs.