Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I know and am sad to say that R1FTA is busy booking Black Frog space to shift what remaining **** people have in Heild to somewhere a bit more lively.

Because Molden Heath is closed for business

Again I do believe that this leads to the issue that there is still virtually no PVP being generated at these sites since they will only exist for a short period of time until they are completed (run time 3-5 min in a PVP ship).
Without the beacon continuously available to draw people to it to fight and or inspect the complex, this solution will only succeed in bringing the PVE aspect back, which although nice is not what we are actually looking for.

Sylvous

Yep, agree with Sylvous on this.

I know people are trying to generate alternative "solutions", which is great, but we still need CCP to actually confirm that there was a problem with these sites being farmed in lowsec. We all know that the highsec ones were farmed 23/7 but I still have doubts about lowsec. It feels like we're trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist.

Sadly the problem did exist, although to a much lesser extent. You could still cloak in the last room of the complexes effectively making the complex unusable to anyone (there were a small number of people who did this). Though (to me) the obvious solution is to make it so that any point beyond a accel gate that requires a key cloaks no longer work, and furthermore as long as a ship is within the complex (beyond a gate requiring a key) all gates up to that point remain unlocked until the player vacates the complex at which point the gates lock again.

That would fix the farming issue in low sec (and now with the highsec complexes gone, I can imagine that many a highsec camper would move to lowsec to use this exploit if the complexes were reinstated as is) while at the same time bring back all the PVP that has been robbed from lowsec.

Sylvous

Plenty of solutions and ideas in this thread, not enough CCP.

There's a lot of good reading, if anyone cares enough, I'm losing hope.

I joined HBC...

I assume you are confused. Try it now.

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I'll put BOUNTIES,
guys listen here,

BOUNTIES.

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guys listen,

I'll put BOUNTIES....on ALL OF US.

Guys.

THEN all the.....Guys listen,

ALL THE BOUNTY HUNTERS WILL COME GET US!!!!!

I LOL'ed =)

Hey guys, we haven't abandoned reading the thread, but in this case we're not going to be able to give you a specific answer you're happy with.

I can confirm that it wasn't just farming of the highsec plexes that concerned us, we looked at the data for the number of unique characters completing the lowsec plexes as well and that number was much smaller than we wanted.

All I can really say is that we understand that this change removes a focal point for lowsec fighting that was beneficial in a lot of ways, but that the team here believes that when we look back on this change in hindsight later the benefits will outweigh the loss (in the same way that we believe the benefits outweighed the loss inherent in removing the higher tier static complexes in 2007).

We in Team Five 0 have also been working hard to produce designs that would improve traffic and combat throughout lowsec, starting with all the crimewatch improvements we released in Retribution that improve life for every pirate, and continuing with our designs that were detailed in the CSM minutes. We can't commit to the next stage until we have the theme selection process internally and with the CSM finished, but we're dedicated to building upon what we achieved for lowsec in Retribution.