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Are the rules/rewards the same as the previous mass test , just asking since the OP isn't updated to reflect the 29th October Mass Test.

Ok, tried a level 2 in a vexor with light drones, equipped a TD. got full room aggro, launched drones, they immediately got aggro. TD'd a rat no change. Killed a different rat while TD'ing the other, no change. Recall drones, got aggro, relaunch, kept aggro.

If anything, shooting at the ratter should actually lower the threat of the bomber..

A supertanked BS will stand a very good chance vs a single bomber..
A well tanked BC will stand a fair chance against a single bomber..
A semi-decent pilot will stand a good chance anyday..

But none of the above get caught in Anoms by single bombers by mistake..

The people who are doing anything but playing the game get caught and killed by frigs in anoms..
But hopefully they learn from the experience..

In realism you would never spend more than a couple of frigs on a single bomber when fighting a "supertanked bs" that has allready wasted a bunch of your buddies..
Especially not if said bomber were actually breaking his tank for you..
And any decent bomber pilot would never go close enough to get caught while randomly helping out a neutral fleet that allready have tackled said "supertanked bs"..

Can we now end the silly comparison between PvP and PvE?
Alltho you get jumped when doing PvE, then PvE is still not comparable to PvP even if you might like to imagine this while slaughtering rats..

So instead of thinking up arguments for having rats boduguard their own nemesis, think of ways to avoid getting caught in the first place or go back to highsec..

Are you scaling back the difficulty of the Blood Raider high end complexes to compensate for the AI changes? These complexes are difficult to begin with (and most simply aren't worth doing I'm talking to you provincial HQ) with a dedicated brick tank. Changing targets means that it's going to be pretty nearly impossible to do these complexes. I get the point is to make shooting red crosses a little more difficult, but this is just stupid beyond reason.

That's a misrepresentation of both this debate and my position in it and you know it. The ship in question needs the DPS of the rats in order to break the battleship's tank, so it is not, in fact, "designed to kill battleships"... at least not THIS battleship. It's designed to hold battleships and help kill them. BIG difference.

I have engaged and killed plenty of rattingships (both BC and BS) without the aid of rats in my bombers and killed them.
This is because people as Vatek points out leave huge holes in their resistance, and like he says this could be avoided by tanking your ship properly.

The point here is that having the rats help the ratter by acting as bodyguard because agro-generation for an item that is useless in PvE regards is out of proportion..
Especially considering the frig/bomber does nothing to the rats, but instead the ratter..

This is wrong, they should not prioritize the frig because he scrams the ratter as it has no bearing on the rats.

The EWAR priority is supposedly to avoid people doing things like bringing TP frigs into sites to save the slots on their main ship.
It should not be to make the rats act as bodyguard for the ratter..

If anything agressing the ratter should reduce agro for the bomber due to the fact that it is doing harm to the rats current priority target and not the rats..

Remember that once the ratters ship dies, they will indeed turn on the frig/bomber as they should..
But prioritizing a target solely for the use of a certain type of hostile module on their current priority target defies logic..

General consensus does not mean it is the right thing to do.
And again, this is not real human pilots.
Real human pilots would allso have the "supertanked battleship" warpscrambled so the bomber would not have to.
Can we then conclude that all rats should warpscramble from now on?
This would work fine too, as the bomber then no longer would have the need to use this module on the ratter.

All I can tell you is CCP's stance... if you enjoy what you were doing, you will just have to work harder to find a way to do it.

Current testing certainly proves that, if you warp in on a null bear running a mission all he has to do is wait until all the Frigates swap to your Stealth Bomber and you go pop pretty fast. CCP FoxFour had suggested up-shipping into something larger so at least you share aggro with the ratter in a ship with the same sig radius.

Conversely you can hope they 'rescue' you with whatever this current thing is they're trying, but I expect once you bring EWar into the picture you're doomed.

I'm rooting for the faction police to become even more of a joke, because if you happen to miss warping off before they w.scram you, now you can just sac a flight of light drones and get away.

Have run several missions in a Vargur, but giving up.
I have run my missions in an Ishtar, and detailed the problems with this mess of an AI with that ship.

And now testing the the Vargur, which is a is a complete disaster in missions that have TD'ing NPC's with the new AI in place.

I have PERFECT gunnery support skills.
When I am not being TD'ed, with the current setup of 2 tracking enhancers, I have a an optimal of 3900 m, and with first falloff, a range of 62 km. I am also Marauder IV, so good tracking with this ship.

I have already posted yet another idiotic bug I found: The TD effect does not show up, so I have no idea which ships are TD'ing me.

This is kind of important, since I am running L4 Sansha The Blockade.
With the 2nd spawn, I am am down to a range of 373 m and with falloff 6022 m. Given that most ships orbit at 12 km or more, kind of tough to kill anything until some TD ships are dead.

Of course, with the new AI, once the AI is "fixed", drones are dead before they can attack said TD ships, and drones are the only thing that can do damage since the guns are TD'ed. Currently there is a huge hole in the AI, but I am sure the dev's are scrambling to fix this.

So the ship is useless.

Of course, this was always the plan.
Soundwave in his Ten Ton Hammer interview at Fanfest, stated he wanted a 10% decrease in high sec mission income.
Well, he gets his wish, and then some. This was ALWAYS the agenda of a certain element within CCP, who are allied with the null sec zealots.

Why don't you guys at CCP have the guts to say "we hate high sec, it was a mistake to create it in the beginning, and we are intent on wiping it out, so you high sec players just move or quit".