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[Rubicon 1.1] Capital Turret Tracking Changes in Conjunction with Heat Iteration

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ShadowandLight
Trigger Happy Capsuleers
#41 - 2014-01-16 16:23:11 UTC
F3X5ON
Zero Fun Allowed
#42 - 2014-01-16 16:23:23 UTC
Instead of adding new content, you continue to nerf stuff, directly or through a proxy.
Maybe take a look at sentries rather and do something actually useful.

On a brighter note, thanks for this suicide gank buff.
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2014-01-16 16:24:09 UTC
Altrue wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:
1Of9 wrote:
@ CCP Fozzie and CCP :

You guys once more, in eve history, hear the out cry of your goon brothers and act upon it.

It's amazing how i still pay this **** tbh, every single time goons are losing, here comes the rescue team from CCP.

I hope you guys realize this is another nail in EVE coffin, slowly but surely, you will end up with nothing but goons alone in your servers because everyone else got fed up with this bias towards goons



I had tought CCP would have had the finesse of waiting until the very end of the war before doing radical changes that clearly favor one side.


You mean, the war where Naglfars are trying to alpha Archons ? I'm sure they will be able to handle the loss of 5% of their tracking just fine.



Not talkign about THIS change.. but about the whoel set of 10 changes in this forum. You know the world is not a closed tiny box don' t you?

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"

zoichh
Solar Dragons
SOLAR FLEET
#44 - 2014-01-16 16:24:11 UTC
Fixing sentry carriers, NO, ccp fix dreads Shocked
iskflakes
#45 - 2014-01-16 16:28:25 UTC
So, I need to overload two tracking computers to get back to where I was before?

Will my Erebus even be able to hit a carrier?

I know these changes were probably designed with tracking dreads in mind, but seriously, titans are so useless right now it's not even funny.

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Tiberu Stundrif
Nifty Idustries
Rate My Ticks
#46 - 2014-01-16 16:29:34 UTC
I don't understand why all these N3 guys are whining about CCP being biased towards Goonswarm. The CFC have been working on an Omega Fleet doctrine (LR Naglfars) and this is a nerf (although small) for that doctrine.

Your Archon can still carry an infinite amount of T1/T2 drones, so I don't know what you are really bitching about...
Aliventi
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry.
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#47 - 2014-01-16 16:36:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Aliventi
Just because we can overheat doesn't mean always will. Dreads are sieged for 5 minutes a cycle. Can we overheat 3-4 TCs at a time for 5 minutes straight? Can we do it for 10 minutes straight? The point is that just because we have the capability to overheat TCs on a dread or Titan doesn't mean we are always going to, unless we can overheat for a very long period of time. 1.5% better than current from overheating 2 TCs is not really that worth it if we can't overheat for a long time. 1.5% of such a small number, that will be rarely used, is not worth the nerf on dreads.

Also, CCP should introduce deadspace weapons upgrades to bridge the chasm between Faction and Officer. It would be nice for those of us that can afford a nicer fit.
Luxotor
This Cyno Will Eventually Make Sense
#48 - 2014-01-16 16:39:58 UTC
Can we get some clarification as to why CCP is deciding that Eve needs a change like this?

THE NIGHT IS DARK AND FULL OF TERRORS!

Goldensaver
Something Went Wrong
#49 - 2014-01-16 16:40:43 UTC
mr passie wrote:
one important bit of info I'm missing here... WHY?


Also, "the effect would be slightly negative" so we'll nerf them further?

As in, "the effect would be bad for the game because tracking dreads are already capable and this would increase their tracking further allowing them to blap more things".

Cyroc'h wrote:

A phoenix can blap a hound as long as the hound has 2 non bonused tp's and 2 non bonused webs on it
capitals can speed tank a phoenix to a degree but with 2 target painters will reverse the effect of speed tanking nearly, disregarding having target painters on the capital it will hit for just over 50% damage before resists this is a nidhoggur with all speed lows

and then the changes to being able to oh different modules

just saying

its a good buff to dreads if you want to deal with overheat damage if not the tracking not ohing is not to much of a problem

can see why the nerf to guns was needed, else would need to be nerfed after everyone relises the bonus's to a dread using oh with the old tracking

Hooeeh! A Phoenix can blap a ship that's got around 2k EHP with a 100k+ volley as long as it's hardly moving, suffering massive sig bloat, and I'd assume it has an MWD running. Heavens, blap Phoenix doctrine, here we come!
TruExXx
Furnace
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#50 - 2014-01-16 16:41:54 UTC
Capital turrets do not need to be nerfed anymore Fozzie. Please reconsider this change.
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol
#51 - 2014-01-16 16:45:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
No. No no, no!

You already nerfed the moros too much and now your nerfing tracking again?

Admittedly, i mainly use my dread for wormhole PVE but i am pretty certain it won't be very practical to overheat for this activity, so it is a big nerf in that regard.

Buff the tracking first and maybe mess around with the sig res of turrets, idk.
gascanu
Bearing Srl.
#52 - 2014-01-16 16:56:46 UTC
you guys just don't get it, do you?
this is ccp way of trying to boost the Phoenix Blink;

p.s. by nerfing all other dreads to the phoenix lvl
Cyroc'h
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2014-01-16 17:00:13 UTC
Goldensaver wrote:
mr passie wrote:
one important bit of info I'm missing here... WHY?


Also, "the effect would be slightly negative" so we'll nerf them further?

As in, "the effect would be bad for the game because tracking dreads are already capable and this would increase their tracking further allowing them to blap more things".

Cyroc'h wrote:

A phoenix can blap a hound as long as the hound has 2 non bonused tp's and 2 non bonused webs on it
capitals can speed tank a phoenix to a degree but with 2 target painters will reverse the effect of speed tanking nearly, disregarding having target painters on the capital it will hit for just over 50% damage before resists this is a nidhoggur with all speed lows

and then the changes to being able to oh different modules

just saying

its a good buff to dreads if you want to deal with overheat damage if not the tracking not ohing is not to much of a problem

can see why the nerf to guns was needed, else would need to be nerfed after everyone relises the bonus's to a dread using oh with the old tracking

Hooeeh! A Phoenix can blap a ship that's got around 2k EHP with a 100k+ volley as long as it's hardly moving, suffering massive sig bloat, and I'd assume it has an MWD running. Heavens, blap Phoenix doctrine, here we come!


actually a mwd would make the missiles hit for less, verse a battleship yes it is hitting for half the damage a gun dread would hit was an example as sick of the phoenix can't hit **** (and phoenix's can tp themselves web......not so much so would need a support fleet I know)

was a tangent, least in the first part you put that dread tracking needs a nerf with the planned buff to tp's and tc's

Chron X
Ixion Defence Systems
#54 - 2014-01-16 17:01:16 UTC
Stealth buff to phoenix. Nerf every other dread.

This is just purely awful. I think CCP has a vested interest in Star Citizen or something...
Abdul Secheh
Zima Corp
Legion of xXDEATHXx
#55 - 2014-01-16 17:01:20 UTC
- Carriers are OP, what should we do?
- NERF DREADS!! YOHOO!
facepalm
thorgil
SnaiLs aNd FroGs
Toilet Paper.
#56 - 2014-01-16 17:05:28 UTC
it's time to eat drop. Tons of drop.
Rekkr Nordgard
Borderland Militia
Zero Hedge Union
#57 - 2014-01-16 17:09:50 UTC
Because capital turrets had such awesome tracking to begin with. /sarcasm

This is a bad change CCP and you should feel bad.
Goldensaver
Something Went Wrong
#58 - 2014-01-16 17:10:13 UTC
thorgil wrote:
it's time to eat drop. Tons of drop.

Stealth buff to drug dealers.
Kregan Gadhar
Helion Production Labs
Independent Operators Consortium
#59 - 2014-01-16 17:15:33 UTC
How about adjusting the something to make the Phoenix a better dread or is it going to be the whipping child for the rest of Eve existence?
Breidablik
Doomheim
#60 - 2014-01-16 17:28:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Breidablik
Why bother?