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1. Good point

2. Totally Agree

3. I think a non fighter and fighter bomber penalty to damage would be more effective.

I love most of the changes, but i do not think the dreads are getting enough attention. when something is named dreadnought, it should be awe inspiring, and very scary. when it shows up in a battle, players should feel dread, hence the name dreadnought!

Dear CCP,

I have a concern here on the dreads. Dreads are not used within fleet fights because it's impossible to keep them alive. Without siege mode they don't really do more damage than a good battleship, but BSs can be moved around using regular gates and much more agile. When they go to siege mode, they just die, becuase the tanking bonus of the siege module is useless above a small fleet's scale.

So, as I've experienced, the problem with fielding dreads in large fleets, and against supercaps, is the tanking, they just can't be kept alive. If you could find a fair way for the dreads to recieve logistics AND do a decent damage, that'd be a start.

As a second point, carriers could hit smaller targets with fighters, that was pretty nice in small fleets. Smaller targets, like cruiser-sized vessels. Weren't 100% hitrate, but still was decent enough to be effective. If you nerf this even more, this might cause an issue.

First you are thinking of the nyx. moros is a dread

next

fighters can still hit subcaps with good support, so have your friends in hugginns near by.

20 fighters can and does hurt, 25 if you put on the +1 modules.

hitting towers - thats a dread's job anyway.

- as stated above have friends fly with you, they are not meant to be solo pwn mobiles. have some support by and all is well.

The "supercaps cant use drones nerf "means they have to get a supportfleet to survive.
That said this is probably the best and easiest to realize way to achieve that goal.


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No ship should be 100% reliant on other ships to survive

Or give us a pos mod for reprocessing them. I'm sure plenty of us have no use for them now.

Best post here tbh, Just goes to prove CCP are not playing the game. You are listening to the whiners . I have 3 accounts that are supercaptial trained, 2 titan and 1 nyx. Why should we suffer just because you fail to get a grip on what is happening in the game.

I have to agree i would like to see a pop up window asking if i would like all my skills for supercaps reallocated all the isk and time reimbursed. You have truly become detached from the wonderful game that you have created. Such a shame but at least star wars galaxies is out soon,, along with BF3, guess then you will see a few more unemployed GM`s in Iceland as i suspect a lot of people leaving this game in disgust.

Most of the whine comes from the people that don`` have the foresight to compete, and the ex northern coalition that gorged all their isk instead of investing it in super cap production for their alliances. Now they are homeless and bitching about it. So what do you do? You punish the people that invested time and money in their people.

The stealth carrier nerf is a joke, even CCP say in their blog to bring carriers to the field, why would you do that. The fighter nerf just makes them a large hauler to move ships around. Thats it.

You are killing the game and driving your player base to other forms of entertainment such as bf3 / s.wars etc. If that was your intention then good job!! Good luck with DUST514, If your lucky you may have a subscriber base of 50k people left.

And one final thing, if you think supercaps are too hard to kill, stick them up against a malestrom fleet of a welp fleet of canes, then come back to me and tell me they cant be killed!!!!

Dont expect any more cash from my wallet, or allow us 1 docking to reporcess these now completely useless ships and give us our skillpoints back

This is my point-- a SC being able to field, for example, two flights of light drones, a flight of mediums, and a flight of heavies is not going to allow them to operate without subcap support. It's not problematic. Allowing them to field limitless waves of whatever drones they want is problematic.

Dominixes can field several flights of drones. Noone would argue that Dominixes are overpowered. Clearing off a couple of waves of drones is no big deal. Clearing off hundreds of waves is a bigger problem. Fixing SCs in fleet fights doesn't require removing all of their drones, just 90% of them.

That said, if you actually look at fleet battles I think you'll see that Titans are a much bigger problem than Supercarriers under current mechanics. Why would you bring a SC and rely on drones, with their bugginess, travel time, and ability to be bombed / shot, to shoot at subcaps when you could simply bring Titans and one-volley battleship after battleship with your giant, tracking-linked guns?

I find it funny that CCP are taking such initiative in addressing a lesser problem while (so far) ignoring the most glaring one of the lot (though at least the DD restrictions are a step in the right direction).

I don't like the basic fighter Nerf one bit...Aren't fighters supposed to kill battleships? You bring a logi carrier to a sub cap fight... fighters seem pretty useless now.

Dread/logofski/superfighter bay was nice though.

Sir:

I think you have misunderstood the role of Titans and Dreads.