EVE General Discussion

I am not a miner and I was never suicide ganked but he does have a point.

A sandbox game is not a game were one group of players can do their thing to disrupt the gameplay of other players without some consequences. Without sufficient consquences entire groups of players are literally driven out and that hurts everyone because if miners are not allowed to mine or just prevented by relativly simple measures and forced to quit EVE stops being a sandbox.

Player numbers have already dropped further then previous years and if the trend continues the future of EVE might be in danger.

Gods OP, you didn't even try, did you?

The troll-fu is weak non-existent in this one.

0.5/10.

Maybe people just feel that the risk vs. reward is too high, when you are getting paid like a Chinese gold farmer to start with.
Maybe it's a nice feeling to mine and read the paper and feel like your getting some where even if your buggered from RL work. A lot of people use EvE to unwind, if it is stress full, it no longer performs it's function.

Eh ? If you try to mimic any understanding of logics please do so with at least reading up some before you do. That stuff didnt even make sense you just said.

I haven't read through the 5 pages of "HTFU", but I feel like an important point must be made:

It's Hulkageddon, not Hulkmania.

He chose to be a pirate, that's what eve is to him. If he has a quarter trillion isk he could do pretty much anything. The fact that people are destroying what eve means to him and others is something that ccp should take note of.

Yes it's a sandbox, but because it is one it gives him and others the choice to gank were ever and how ever they want. No one group should have the right to dictate how others play their game.


See what I did there?

Point being, ANY changes to the game is inevitably going to ruin someone else's play style, CCP is walking a fine line.

For him it is not about the isk.Something i understand , though i am not a miner nor affected by hulkageddon crap , he feels his profession is being ****** in this game and i agree 100 % at this time with him .

I however don't expect you to understand this .. but then you also don't have 250 B so how could you ?

Dude dont quit, wait till they rebalance mining barges and give the skiff battleship level EHP to prevent ganking. If gankers are your problem then use the skiff when it comes out this winter (most likely) or join a null sec allaince and mine with them 24/7 so you dont have to worry about random gankers.

Just so you know I used to be a Hisec miner (many of us were at some point), granted null sec is dangerous, BUT its far more profitable than Hisec mining. every time I go out to mine aI make enough Isk to buy me 3 or 4 covetors so even if i get blown up I can still easily replace what i lost and then some.

you choose to be prey, you chose to get hunted

Well, all I can say is that I'm glad I am the Orca pilot. My main's corp decided that the gankage was way too much and started flying Rokhs. The yield is substantially lower than a max yield Hulk, but we were getting ganked often by well rehearsed teams of a hi sec looter/salvager and his (-5 sec) assassin buddy. It is NOT relaxing for my corp mates as the Rokh cargo hold fills up in 3 mins and must be jettisoned and/or moved to jet can.

I know that the Orca is a juicy valid target too, but it takes a much more coordinated effort to take one out, and so far, nobody has gone to that much trouble. -knock on wood-

BTW, the heavy ganks started way before HV, and we dealt with it by a change to Rokhs. Others would deal differently. But since our change, we have not been harrassed by gankers (only the occassional can flipper).

We are looking forward to the new Ore ships, and (of course) we will be using the tanky version when they come out.

I am sad to say that the days of a relaxing mining profession are gone.