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My last rant to CCP

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Frying Doom
#141 - 2012-07-04 01:45:27 UTC
InternetSpaceship wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

Have you ever considered a lot of the playerbase don't give a crap about emergent game play and just want to have a game they can enjoy?


Yeah, they have that game. It's called WoW.

Maybe you should go play it as you are obviously such a big fan, so big a fan you advertise the game on another MMO.
InternetSpaceship wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

When I joined the game I never saw a word about EvE as a hard game, only that Null sec was dangerous lawless space. Big smile


Anyone have that MMO learning curve graph?

Oh I'm sorry I missed the part on that graph that says EvE is a hard game(in relation to environment, not learning curve), so as you don't seem to be able to understand the meaning of sentences refer to your own advice. Go play another MMO, I believe you endorsed one Lol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

InternetSpaceship
Perkone
Caldari State
#142 - 2012-07-04 01:46:31 UTC
Nikolai Dostoyevski wrote:
Security ratings below -1.0 should be kill on sight by anybody in hi-sec. That way you can actively defend against most suicide gankers by killing them first.


First decent suggestion in the thread.

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InternetSpaceship
Perkone
Caldari State
#143 - 2012-07-04 01:48:22 UTC  |  Edited by: InternetSpaceship
Frying Doom wrote:
InternetSpaceship wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

Have you ever considered a lot of the playerbase don't give a crap about emergent game play and just want to have a game they can enjoy?


Yeah, they have that game. It's called WoW.

Maybe you should go play it as you are obviously such a big fan, so big a fan you advertise the game on another MMO.
InternetSpaceship wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

When I joined the game I never saw a word about EvE as a hard game, only that Null sec was dangerous lawless space. Big smile


Anyone have that MMO learning curve graph?

Oh I'm sorry I missed the part on that graph that says EvE is a hard game(in relation to environment, not learning curve), so as you don't seem to be able to understand the meaning of sentences refer to your own advice. Go play another MMO, I believe you endorsed one Lol


What are you even talking about? I'm not on here complaining about how hard eve is. I've been pretty vocal against carebears, what in my posts leads to you believe I'd want to go play a carebear game? The post I quoted said that some players don't care about emergent gameplay, so I suggested they should probably play a game that doesn't emphasize it. I believe it was a reasonable suggestion. I do enjoy emergent gameplay, so I enjoy eve. I would get little satisfaction from WoW for the same reason.

No no, none of this adds up at all.

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Frederick Sanger
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#144 - 2012-07-04 01:53:40 UTC
Musashi IV wrote:
Being able to read my newspaper while peacefully mining is all I want to do.

You should thank us for saving you from the liberal print media.
InternetSpaceship
Perkone
Caldari State
#145 - 2012-07-04 01:54:29 UTC
Frederick Sanger wrote:
Musashi IV wrote:
Being able to read my newspaper while peacefully mining is all I want to do.

You should thank us for saving you from the liberal print media.


Or from print media in general. Digital is where it's at.

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Frying Doom
#146 - 2012-07-04 02:00:28 UTC
InternetSpaceship wrote:
Alaya Carrier wrote:

Not going to happen. People happen to have a life. "Making" a 0.0 alliance is easy, keeping it running is not. It's horrendously time consuming.


I too, have a life. I spend more time on the forums than I do in the game, but I can still be in a 0.0 alliance. It really isn't taking that much out of me.

So you are bitching about people who actually want to play the game, while you admit you spend less time playing the game than being a forum troll. Yeah really sounds like you need to go else where, I believe you highly recommend another game. So go play it Troll.

InternetSpaceship wrote:
Alaya Carrier wrote:

You wrongly assume people care enough to bother. You need a motivated core of dedicated players with a lot of game knowledge to setup an alliance that would EVER have any hope to run against a Technetium fuelled endless empire.


They care enough to rage and whine daily on the forums for ccp to ban or nerf us. Sorry that we know how to play Eve and you guys don't, but that isn't a reason to punish us.

Trying to get people to care enough about goons to do something is impossible. Why bother interrupting your own game for a group that will self destruct anyway. Burn Jita, the silly war decs and everything else Goonswarm has done since 10,058 voices cried out and were suddenly silenced, has shown us all that you are teetering on the edge. Boredom is your enemy and that enemy is winning. Your membership has lost faith in their leader and he is scrambling to show he is still in charge, it all just looks like the death rattle of your alliance.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Frying Doom
#147 - 2012-07-04 02:02:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
~~removed due to other MMO mentioned to many times~~

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

InternetSpaceship
Perkone
Caldari State
#148 - 2012-07-04 02:21:36 UTC  |  Edited by: InternetSpaceship
Frying Doom wrote:

So you are bitching about people who actually want to play the game, while you admit you spend less time playing the game than being a forum troll. Yeah really sounds like you need to go else where, I believe you highly recommend another game. So go play it Troll.


Well, I did recommend it, but only to people not interested in emergent gameplay. I haven't played it, but it looks pretty boring. I don't like being confined to a specific style of play. Eve is a lot more flexible. I usually just play the markets in Eve, which admittedly doesn't take nearly as much time as doing other things, but that is how I choose to play it. I'm pretty busy with real life stuff, but I still enjoy the distraction Eve provides, even if only for an hour or two a day. Sorry you don't approve. Even if the gameplay of that other MMO did appeal to me, I wouldn't have the time.

I'm not bitching about anything. I'm responding to people saying that not every eve player is interested in the emergent gameplay emphasized in Eve. Unfortunately for them, that's what Eve is. I think it is perfectly fine to recommend them another game more suitable to their playstyle, and it does not obligate me to go play it as well. It is not my style. You're the one posting vitriolic rants, I'm merely offering suggestions to people who don't seem to enjoy Eve very much. I don't know why you get the idea that since I recommeded it to people looking for a different style of game, I should also go and play it myself. Are you not aware of the fact that just because you don't like something, maybe other people do? Or can you only enjoy one thing at a time?

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Trying to get people to care enough about goons to do something is impossible. Why bother interrupting your own game for a group that will self destruct anyway. Burn Jita, the silly war decs and everything else Goonswarm has done since 10,058 voices cried out and were suddenly silenced, has shown us all that you are teetering on the edge. Boredom is your enemy and that enemy is winning. Your membership has lost faith in their leader and he is scrambling to show he is still in charge, it all just looks like the death rattle of your alliance.


People have been saying this the entirety of the time Goonswarm has been in Eve.

Also, man, step back a moment and look at how worked up you're getting over this Spaceship MMO. Calm down, nothing that happens here or in game matters at all. If someone pisses you off, just relax, go take a walk, or even a run. It isn't a big deal. In 10 years, Eve probably won't even be here. It isn't worth getting emotionally invested in.

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If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.  If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you.

Frying Doom
#149 - 2012-07-04 02:42:40 UTC
InternetSpaceship wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

So you are bitching about people who actually want to play the game, while you admit you spend less time playing the game than being a forum troll. Yeah really sounds like you need to go else where, I believe you highly recommend another game. So go play it Troll.


Well, I did recommend it, but to people not interested in emergent gameplay. I haven't played it, but it looks pretty boring. I don't like being confined to a specific style of play. Eve is a lot more flexible. I usually just play the markets in Eve, which admittedly doesn't take nearly as much time as doing other things, but that is how I choose to play it. I'm pretty busy with real life stuff, but I still enjoy the distraction Eve provides, even if only for an hour or two a day. Sorry you don't approve. Even if the gameplay of that other MMO did appeal to me, I wouldn't have the time.

I'm not bitching about anything. I'm responding to people saying that not every eve player is interested in the emergent gameplay emphasized in Eve. Unfortunately for them, that's what Eve is. I think it is perfectly fine to recommend them another game more suitable to their playstyle, and it does not obligate me to go play it as well. It is not my style. You're the one posting vitriolic rants, I'm merely offering suggestions to people who don't seem to enjoy Eve very much.

Quote:

Trying to get people to care enough about goons to do something is impossible. Why bother interrupting your own game for a group that will self destruct anyway. Burn Jita, the silly war decs and everything else Goonswarm has done since 10,058 voices cried out and were suddenly silenced, has shown us all that you are teetering on the edge. Boredom is your enemy and that enemy is winning. Your membership has lost faith in their leader and he is scrambling to show he is still in charge, it all just looks like the death rattle of your alliance.


People have been saying this the entirety of the time Goonswarm has been in Eve.

Yeah but before Goonswarm have had challenges like BoB ect... now you are having to make your own. I'm not saying it will be quick, the signs are there but it will take years for it to happen, unless something changes.

As too the other the population figures come November, December will tell whether CCP should continue to allow this emergent game play to its current level or whether it is just costing them money and in the long run us the game.

Personally I try to enter empire as rarely as possible, I have seen sewers with friendlier atmospheres than Empire is now. The biggest problem is, that is where CCP get most of their money from to pay for our game.

As to recent exploits abused by people, personally I wish that kind of emergent game play would roll over and die. I can think of older bugs that could do with that sort of attention rather than wasting resources on silly bugs that never should have made it into the game but that are less important to fix than some older ones. They should have just posted a blog saying bug as soon as they saw it and biomassed any characters after that that exploited it and moved on.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Soundwave Plays Diablo
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#150 - 2012-07-04 03:36:13 UTC
Quote:
If you pay attention, and you’ve got your wits about you, you can avoid people coming in and ganking, a survival of the fittest kind of thing, and people are now able to actually make a much better living from mining because of things like Hulkageddon and Burn Jita, because minerals are more expensive


I get absolutely sick to my stomach when I hear this trash.

The mineral market in eve was ****** for years.

Then it crept upa bit.

Then speculation for the drone nerf patch shot mineral prices up. And the artificial nocxium ceiling went away.

They have come down since then.

Hulkodouchin did **** all to the price of minerals.
InternetSpaceship
Perkone
Caldari State
#151 - 2012-07-04 03:40:56 UTC  |  Edited by: InternetSpaceship
Frying Doom wrote:
Yeah but before Goonswarm have had challenges like BoB ect... now you are having to make your own. I'm not saying it will be quick, the signs are there but it will take years for it to happen, unless something changes.


We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Being in GS myself, I can tell you that people are having just as much fun as ever, especially since the war in delve started. Goons have been here since almost the beginning, and I am inclined to believe that we will be here until the very end.

What are the signs you mentioned? People have been doomsaying both Eve and GoonSwarm since 2003, but both are going on as strong, if not stronger, than ever. Your point seems to be of the "I predict you will die sometime in the next 100 years" variety. Yes, goonswarm will one day end, but to predict it out years in advance isn't very impressive.

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If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.  If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you.

Frying Doom
#152 - 2012-07-04 03:55:15 UTC
InternetSpaceship wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Yeah but before Goonswarm have had challenges like BoB ect... now you are having to make your own. I'm not saying it will be quick, the signs are there but it will take years for it to happen, unless something changes.


We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Being in GS myself, I can tell you that people are having just as much fun as ever, especially since the war in delve started. Goons have been here since almost the beginning, and I am inclined to believe that we will be here until the very end.

What are the signs you mentioned? People have been doomsaying both Eve and GoonSwarm since 2003, but both are going on as strong, if not stronger, than ever. Your point seems to be of the "I predict you will die sometime in the next 100 years" variety. Yes, goonswarm will one day end, but to predict it out years in advance isn't very impressive.

Any wars will help Goonswarm not to stagnate, Personally I would say the loss of Goonswarm would be a bad thing except history has shown us that EvE hates a vacuum. I wasn't saying in the next 100 years lol, I was saying the cracks are showing and it's all down hill from here.

I also said if things do not change, Goonswarm needs wars and people to fight. If you stop you will surely die. Much like the Roman empire.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

InternetSpaceship
Perkone
Caldari State
#153 - 2012-07-04 04:02:24 UTC  |  Edited by: InternetSpaceship
Frying Doom wrote:
InternetSpaceship wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Yeah but before Goonswarm have had challenges like BoB ect... now you are having to make your own. I'm not saying it will be quick, the signs are there but it will take years for it to happen, unless something changes.


We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Being in GS myself, I can tell you that people are having just as much fun as ever, especially since the war in delve started. Goons have been here since almost the beginning, and I am inclined to believe that we will be here until the very end.

What are the signs you mentioned? People have been doomsaying both Eve and GoonSwarm since 2003, but both are going on as strong, if not stronger, than ever. Your point seems to be of the "I predict you will die sometime in the next 100 years" variety. Yes, goonswarm will one day end, but to predict it out years in advance isn't very impressive.

Any wars will help Goonswarm not to stagnate, Personally I would say the loss of Goonswarm would be a bad thing except history has shown us that EvE hates a vacuum. I wasn't saying in the next 100 years lol, I was saying the cracks are showing and it's all down hill from here.

I also said if things do not change, Goonswarm needs wars and people to fight. If you stop you will surely die. Much like the Roman empire.


I'd personally love to see the high sec players finally get so ******* sick of us they band together and we have a massive high/low sec vs. nullsec all-out war.

Regardless of who wins, that would be a hell of a fight.

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ISD Stensson
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#154 - 2012-07-04 04:12:15 UTC
Thread locked for ranting.

A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and helpful in the development of the game, but rants are disruptive and incite only flaming.

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