Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Those are my shattered dreams...

Well, we got the best avatars in industry by far. We are just Minecraft's Bizarro twin: they got a helluva content and cubehead avatars, and we got a helluva avatars and no content.

I've been playing Guild Wars 2 since launch and barely have hit a few hours in EVE since. GW2's avatar are quite industry standard thus they score very low compared to EVE's, but walking through GW2's scenarios I just noticed what massive amount of work they imply.

There is no way in which a company like CCP can deliver that kind of stuff, let alone do it twice (for WoD and EVE). EVE's developers are spreadsheets in space developers. They're not even the appropiate staff for the job. And they will need a whole new crew about the size of the current one just for WoD. In the current state of affairs, growing to double its current size is not a realistic prospect for CCP; they're having enough trouble just to hold their ground.

I think they went insane pretending to develop avatar gameplay and we were the biggest fools for buying into the concept. Even with industry standard quality, there are more man-hours in Divinity's Reach alone than on the whole 200 ships of EVE, and yet it's taking CCP over a year to simply remap them. At this pace they couldn't deliver WiS in any sensible time schedule.

I guess that maybe someday CCP will deliver something WiS out of sheer stubbornness, just to show off, but none of us will be playing EVE then. Certainly I won't. I am just becoming to don't care about the ludicrous amount of time and money i've invested into EVE, to just call it a loss and carry on as long as i find something else to play.

85% yes.

15% left is in EVE and DUST.

a lot of eve is simply a reward for time invested. WIS should be no different, if it takes longer to achieve via WIS it should reward slightly better....

Success of these games outside game is showing that it would work if implemented decently. Maybe players could take slots and make cassinos. :P

Why is it that people support and enjoy actual avatar gameplay in GW2 but for eve it's like nahhh we only want to dress up and emote each other.

I lost interest in WiS when they removed the quafe chick from the Gal Stations because they were trying to go for some teen rating on boxed sets they were selling via Atari. I knew then that the whole walking in stations wouldnt be some mature dirty, seedy and evil universe that eve is and they write the RP etc.

Im eager and hope to see some good things come out of it but I feel its going to be very plain.

It's a matter of waiting. We can wait in the void for three years at least until we get the whole nine yards of the same old crap on foot, or we can be provided a social sandbox and fill it as we see fit since next year and until whenever they figure some original and new content.

Also I pointed out in several occasions how the modding community could come to assist in art assets.

Currently CCP is not delivering WiS and is not allowing players to make WiS content. CCP is not even ASKING the players what would they want to do aside form the same old crap on foot. They are telling us to buy the same old starship stuff in new shiny or GTFO, and I wonder how long will be until enough subscribers please them.

They are removing gameplay from me with each "expansion" (now it's the Arbitrator's turn... it was a nice unique ship, will miss it) and are not giving anything in exchange. Oh, yes, the new Mackinaw is cool, now I can mine the same i mined for four years with a new ship, hoorray. So what? I still haven't repaid the Mackinaw and already are bored of mining, just as if I had done it for four years. And i am very excited about whenever they feel it's time to mess with faction BS, so they f-up my mission runner ships too.

Doh, it's on my signature, so why bother hammering the point? I never fitted into EVE, they're removing the little niches were people like me could hide from the politically correct crap and they're not going to provide substitutes. Neither in space, nor in stations. Game over.

No news is not necessarily bad news. CCP may have clammed the WiS devs up because they have a plan to surprise us. I'm not saying it's likely, but it's possible. There are a few things--for example, POSes--that they're being pretty secretive about.

I'd rather have them do it right, and not do it to the exclusion of other kinds of gameplay, so I can be patient.

Edit: Some grounds for optimism.