EVE General Discussion

The problem, the real problem and the biggest problem that anyone has with this new system is that it was supposed to help stagnation in 0.0 and encourage fights.

Theres a few fights happening in the east but thats about it. Nobody in a troll ceptor is looking for a fight, they are looking to troll and be annoying, thats fine.

Trolling and being annoying is cool ingame but it has no place in a robust, fun and rewarding sovereignty system.

Well, we are actually a ~100 guy Ally and yes, we did take sov. Kinda by accident, I just wanted a screenshot. The system is ok, but maybe, just maybe rise the size of ships needed a bit. Like T1 BS and/or T2 Cruiser at least. Make people risk something if they want sov and then lift the "no rep" limitation or something.

A lot of dissonance could be eliminated from this thread if we disregard posts from npc corps, people that never had and never will have sov and people that dont want sov.

I dont think anyone would argue that The Imperium has adapted to Aegis-sov the best out of all 0.0 groups and their regions are nigh impenetrable thanks to using the system.

Even in a max-ADM region theres still a 3 hour window each day where you chase uncatchable interceptors and play whack-a-mole with people that dont wanna fight.

I know Mordus Angels has a max dudes CTA to this thread but they would serve themselves a lot better by examining why they are continually frustrated at every angle. They have been beating their heads against a brick wall for years and keep asking: why does it hurt??

Little fellas over in Etherium Reach and Perrigen Falls and Curse and Scalding Pass are all taking their own sov for the first time. Any small groups that really want sov has a real shot at taking it in many places on the map.

These 40 guys think they should be able to wrest it from 14,000 players which would never happen even in the worst scenario but the dream is still there. And thats why a genuine discussion about tweaks that could and should be made to Aegis-sov devolve into trollceptor talk.

Sounds like your argument is you're totally unaffected and trollsov. Why are you posting? 40 trolls don't think they're supposed to sweep the region out from under you and they seem to be having a good time doing whatever "boring," thing you think they shouldn't be doing. Maybe it's time you stopped pretending that you care about their enjoyment and go make some content?

(Bullet points added to match up with your above paragraphs, assuming I got my formatting right.)

- Ad hominem attacks do nothing to bolster your arguments. And anyway, people in NPC corps, people who never held sov, people who currently don't want sov, are exactly the people you should want the opinion of, because those are the people who could be moving into sov null in the future and who wouldn't want new neighbors moving in and providing content? (Besides carebears, of course.)

-Indeed. I look at Deklein and hardly ever see anything reinforced. Good job! As opposed to, for example, BL, who had a huge amount of their sov structures reinforced in Fountain recently. They're going to be having a bad time come a few hours from now when all the command nodes start spawning.

-Do you mean in backwater places like R8S-1K that have had all of 33 jumps in the past hour and a low ADM of 2.4? Yeah, that's more susceptible to trollceptors since you hardly ever have anybody there. But you have an Outpost just a single gate away in FO8M-2 which seems to have a decent amount of traffic - I can understand being annoyed at having to undock, but if sending a single person in cruiser one jump away to deal with a frig is so onerous - a frig that takes 30 minutes to create a reinforcement event (5 minute warpup and 24 minute capture) - then perhaps your leadership should reconsider their commitment to keeping a TCU there.

-They're frustrated? I got the impression from the discussions that they're actually snickering a bit about how things are going.

-Indeed, that does seem to be the case. Although it'll take more than just three weeks for some of the holders of Dominion Sov to figure out the new system and provide a bit of breathing room to these new little fellas, I think. The big guys are somewhat effectively still kicking out the little fellas at times, but at an unsustainable mental cost, it seems.

-Yup, certainly worthy of discussion.

This I have to disagree with. There's no reason to assume that these people will want to move into null, and there's certainly no reason why their opinion on the new sov system should be given too much attention since they don't use it. Many of the people "giving their opinions" in this thread have seen that the new sov mechanics are frustratingly boring, hate null groups and therefore support them being bored. People that support the game becoming more boring are hardly the types of people CCP should listen to when making development decisions.

Hence, they're ignoring you and the rest of the "I CBA to chase a ceptor," crowd, because you're asking for a rollback to an even more stale and boring sov system.

Activating an entosis link should be like lighting a cyno: you cant move, no burning offgrid in your nullified interceptor.

If people wanna stick a 40m mod on a 20m ship they should be prepared to lose it when engaging in sovereignty warfare. Or..you know, bring a proper support fleet with you and have a fleet fight like the system is supposed to encourage.

I am still behind these things. It is not the sov system I have as much of a problem with, as it is the meta of "ohgodruuuuun". That was a problem before the nano nerfs, it's been a problem since nullified interceptors and the Mordus ships became a thing, and this sov system has just highlighted that problem.

I think this new form of Sov is brilliant.
It forces Sov holders to defend their space from even the smallest annoyances.

It challenges their tactical organization and strategic commitment in trying to control so much space.
Even though the adjustment may be painful for some, its probably the best recent change to the game.

I hope the Devs stick to this change and don't cave to those unwilling to change or adapt.
I realize some minor adjustments may be needed of course.


Good work on "Aegis Sov" CCP!