EVE General Discussion

How? How is there a difference between these two ideas and who gets to decide when a player's actions become a "psychological weapon"?

This is the type of **** that bothers me, where are you getting this information? These two concepts you just described could actually be the exact same thing, just described differently.

CCP get to decide, and they've made it very clear that if they're sufficiently motivated, that they will effect that choice.

It has been made extremely clear that there is a dividing line between attacking a player character and using the game to attack the player. Or to put it another way, that EVE is only a game, and and that while you're meant to play it as a cold dark ruthless game, that you should have a miminum of respect for the other players.

Since you've made it abundantly clear that you have a great deal of difficulty in distinguishing the two concepts, I advise you to tread well clear of overstepping the line, if for no other reason that CCP have also made it extremely clear that even associating with people like you isn't a great idea either, and you've said that you have at least one buddy who enjoys your company in game.

I'll try and use an analogy, which I fully expect you to fail to understand and dismiss as "pretentious hipster drivel": American football is a full contact, physical sport, and if you tackle me hard when I'm carrying the ball and I get hurt, well too bad, these things happen and I chose to play the game knowing that they do. But if you stamp on my face after I've lost possession, just for the hell of it, then you'll be off the pitcch, banned for several matches or even for ever, and looking at assault charges.

That's the difference between "playing the game hard and if someone gets hurt then too bad" and "being a ****": if all you want to do is "be a ****" then you can and will be ejected from the game and no one will miss you.

I've done nothing but take you at your word. If you repeatedly insist that you're a ****, and repeatedly asert that you can't see any reaon not to be one, or any difference between playing hard and crossing the line then why act disappointed when people react as though you're telling the truth?


I mean actually I'm pretty sure that I know why; you're an emotionally immature little bully who got scared when he suddenly realised that there actually is an authority figure on the playground. It was most entertaining seeing you back up so fast that your shoes smoked.

I've already been banned from this game, I obviously would like to keep playing. But do you really think I got scared? Like CCP is gonna come in here and ban me for not recognizing the limits of behaviour in this game?

I never insisted I was a jerk I just said that there's nothing wrong with being a jerk in this game. Difference. You're a real tough guy though, man, I'm so scared now because IT'S POSSIBLE FOR ME TO GET BANNED FROM THIS GAME .... Oh no. I don't know what I'm going to do now. I'm scared. Please help.

You are an *******. And a moron. Go cry to CCP to ban me now.

See how very careful you were there "NOT" to cross the line.
(using known chat filters to moderate your language is really quite intelligent and takes common sense - just below the line of unacceptable)

FYI, if you get banned for crossing the line, it has nothing to do with whether Malcanis is a tough guy or not, CCP make that call. He is just trying to show you the common decency of being forewarned. Already, you are looking for someone to blame for your actions.

The concepts shown do look good.
Not sure if I missed it or it just wasn't mentioned but can the citadel weapons be manually controlled, like pos guns?

Stations for player controlled WH space, a real game changer - No more living out of a pos.
Although this; (2nd sentence in particular)
leaves me wondering. To preserve Wormhole space gameplay by making it so you can warp directly to player owned structures using the on-board scanner? Is that not the exact opposite of how WH space is searched now?

Corps (many of whom live in wh's and are not in alliances) will not have the benefit of alliance invulnerability timers yet can plant the citadel structures in WH space. Which will be visible to anyone entering the system by simply opening the on-board scanner.
That to me does not sound like it is "preserving" Wormhole gameplay but completely changing it.

The original topic has sort of shifted a few times.
People come in, talk about something they wish to express then it moves to something else.

Right now, the new structure blog seems a good thing to discuss.
And is related to the original topic. (had to read the title again just to make sure )

It's really interesting what they are creating.

It will make a lot of people join. I'm even sure as a solo person
with actual brain one will be able to actually do something annoying.

All the smaller groups lead by wannabe space emperors in highsec ...
... will get crushed as they should ...
... making room for those who deserve it.

RvB is a predictable winner here ...
... but oh boy this opens up sk many possibilities of shitting over people.

I like it.
Combat for structures.
I predict they will change wardecs or abolish them for a completely different experience.

Because wardecs as we have them now are useless for this.

Good tmes are coming... too bad it takes so long until it's done.

Let's all cross the line together. Don't be scared homie!

Just as a reminder of topic, numbers don´t lie.

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

5 years: 49K online daily (at average)

6 months: 36K

1 month: 24K

Pretty big % drops, to me they suggest shrinking number of accounts as well, and so that CCP might be in big problems and now took panic measures in June changes (my opinions of changes are in my last posts in dev blog).

Perhaps some of that income from number of accounts has now been replaced by allowing skilling of more than one char in any account.

Just like when Elite Dangerous had "offline-gate" (when it launched without promised offline mode at mid last December and many backers took their money back), EvE saw huge spike in new accounts/chars created around that time.

Not sure how many of those people have stayed in EvE, but last 6 months averages sure don´ t look good.

CCP is in a totally new kind of situation, even from view of competition it has and will have as gamers have more choices (not all even Sci-Fi), so it should (have) stick(ed) in what EvE had it´s strong points that no other similar games had:
Same single server where one is able to build AND rule an EMPIRE.
Not to forget being even able to fly (and/or aim to) biggest of ships ever in Sci-Fi, and make some serious damage with them.

Best of luck for CCP with their June-gamble, in this financial/business/competition environment they now are they sure need it.





-0BH