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While I am in favor of increasing the sense of distance in New Eden, I am concerned about the effect of these changes on Black Ops battleships. In their current form, these ships have one niche in which they excel: covert hotdrops, whether jumping in themselves or bridging other ships. They are mediocre for any other use. The long cooldowns which will be imposed after 2-3 drops (i.e. 4-6 jumps, since you make a jump in and a jump out on each drop) will make this form of gameplay unbearably tedious, effectively making black ops useless until they receive a significant rebalance--something which I have not yet seen any hints at.

As such, I would recommend one of the following:

1. Apply additional fatigue only when jumping to a new unique system which has not been visited during the current cooldown. This would leave the examples in the dev blog unchanged, but un-nerfs the sort of local action that black ops battleships are generally used for. It would allow quicker back-and-forth trips, for example if you want to move a large number of assembled ships one carrier jump, without removing the penalty for trips across New Eden.

For Black Ops, this would mean that they would still accrue fatigue, but only once per drop rather than twice. This may not be enough to save them from irrelevance, but it would be a start.

2. Release a Black Ops rebalance at the same time as the jump nerfs, to make them not completely useless. I'm sure the balance teams are familiar with the discussion around Black Ops, so I won't get into what that rebalance might look like here.

3. Give Black Ops an exemption similar to JFs and Rorquals.

If none of these actions are taken, Black Ops will be in a very very bad place. Please consider doing something to prevent that.

What's wrong with you?! Don't even think about explaining how this issue can be mitigated by players playing smarter. Nullbears want the i win button, they certainly don't want to scan down wormholes, let alone jump into them. I mean, they might die.

OH NOES> NO LOCAL!!!!!

can i have youre le stuff

Can we buy PLEX to make the timer go down faster? Or make in-app purchases on a mobile application?


That's literally where it sounds like you're going. This is no different than "waiting to earn stars" so that you can level up on some half-baked mobile game. Why not just pull the trigger already?

If my analysis of recent changes is correct, CCP is making sov null players quit, and filling the void with French newbies.

Now that's what I call a plan

Simple jump drive change!


Scale up jump time to a cyno by the number of ships in the fleet with that cyno......and in such a way that it cannot be negated by cycling the cyno through multiple fleets of one cap.

1 Capital? X number of seconds
2 Capitals? 2X number of seconds
3 Capitals 3X number of seconds

Do similarly for a bridge.....1 titan, 1 cyno, 60 cruisers.......yeah you can attack that 1 Tengu 10 jumps away if your bait can last 10 minutes.

Blobbing needs a kick in the balls.......the proposed changes have less to do with blobbing and more to do with just sucking.

This is absolutely not true, it just takes longer for people to get ready for such large scale battles.

There will be no last minute batphoning, ghost ridding half way around the universe only to do the same thing on the other side of the universe 5 minutes later :)

Adapt or die.

Oh the tears are plenty today :)

WOW talk about putting the last nail in EVE's coffin. Well think of the money I will save unsubscribing my capital accounts.

This change will completely destroy the T2 economy of eve, due to incredibly ill-thought changes.

1. The moon distribution for R8 and R32 moons is EXTREMELY regional, with most regions containing not a single moon of a R8/32 type, while containing a massive surplus of another type.

2. These changes make POSs of a type not supported locally being just about impossible to run, due to the massive M3 needed to import/export.

3. R64s wont be affected by tower type, as they can fit several silos and a reaonable defense on them, regardless of race (some do it better, but all are able to do it)

4. The amount of m3 that needs importing/exporting, even just with R8/32 Materials, is unfeasible for going via gates

Since CCP has decided on keeping R8/32 moons regional, a centralized meeting place is an absolute necessity, which is why places like Jita are so good for selling and buying goo for reactions and T2 components.

These changes will do nothing but increase the price of T2 ships and mods by an unimaginable degree, as well as making logistics to any region not associated with a large 0.0 entity (and being part of that large 0.0 entity).

CCP, if you want to do this, make resources (ice and R8/32) universally distributed. It's the only way you can possibly do it WITHOUT completely killing the T2 economy

This is gonna be interesting :D

Edit: Okay well actually this is interesting and fundamentally not bad, BUT, I think you're going a LITTLE TOO HARD.

In my opinion for instance, jump freighter range shouldn't be constrained, as well as rorqual range. These ships are of no offensive capabilities and shouldn't have to endure nerfs to power projection. Also rorqual should be included in the 0.1 range calculation factor.