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New drone exploit - instapops everything

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Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#81 - 2013-12-28 19:05:36 UTC
SPUNKMUNKY wrote:
Ayeson wrote:
SPUNKMUNKY wrote:

Lawl, 5th thanny kill mail. Nice troll. Watch the video and witness your FC stating that reps are holding.

Dead2RattingCarriers


getting reps =/= reps are holding

Critical listening skills, you don't have them.



Did you even watch the video?

Here let me link it again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPRKhWX8d_c&feature=youtu.be

and one more time just incase.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPRKhWX8d_c&feature=youtu.be


You seem really upset about this, probably because you lost 4 ratting carriers and it took you an hour to mobilize a :really poor: fleet
SPUNKMUNKY
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#82 - 2013-12-28 19:11:57 UTC
Ayeson wrote:
SPUNKMUNKY wrote:
Ayeson wrote:
SPUNKMUNKY wrote:

Lawl, 5th thanny kill mail. Nice troll. Watch the video and witness your FC stating that reps are holding.

Dead2RattingCarriers


getting reps =/= reps are holding

Critical listening skills, you don't have them.



Did you even watch the video?

Here let me link it again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPRKhWX8d_c&feature=youtu.be

and one more time just incase.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPRKhWX8d_c&feature=youtu.be


You seem really upset about this, probably because you lost 4 ratting carriers and it took you an hour to mobilize a :really poor: fleet



LOL I'm quite pleased actually. I got a dread kill and a complimentary threadnaught. I give no ***** for ratting carriers.

Also did you watch the video yet? I'm worried you might have missed the link. Here you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPRKhWX8d_c&feature=youtu.be
Witchway
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#83 - 2013-12-28 19:12:47 UTC
posting in a goons tear thread.

Official Shit Talking Captain, Bastard of Hard Knocks Inc.

Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#84 - 2013-12-28 19:16:36 UTC
SPUNKMUNKY wrote:
Ayeson wrote:
SPUNKMUNKY wrote:
Ayeson wrote:
SPUNKMUNKY wrote:

Lawl, 5th thanny kill mail. Nice troll. Watch the video and witness your FC stating that reps are holding.

Dead2RattingCarriers


getting reps =/= reps are holding

Critical listening skills, you don't have them.



Did you even watch the video?

Here let me link it again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPRKhWX8d_c&feature=youtu.be

and one more time just incase.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPRKhWX8d_c&feature=youtu.be


You seem really upset about this, probably because you lost 4 ratting carriers and it took you an hour to mobilize a :really poor: fleet



LOL I'm quite pleased actually. I got a dread kill and a complimentary threadnaught. I give no ***** for ratting carriers.

Also did you watch the video yet? I'm worried you might have missed the link. Here you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPRKhWX8d_c&feature=youtu.be


I think its cute you think you know who the FC is, and I also find it funny that you're basing your entire argument off of an unidentified person saying one sentence in a video. Your investigative skills know no bounds!
Amitious Turkey
10kSubnautic
#85 - 2013-12-28 19:45:09 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
ACTUALLY:

The one thing in common with this and the other incident is that both victims were refitting at the time.
It's possible that the drone hit you at the exact moment that the server recalculated your ship's resistances, etc. and as a result it did way more damage than it was supposed to.


I knew I should have covered that thermal exhaust vent on my battlestation.

I like to lick things.

Haunting the forums since 03.

Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#86 - 2013-12-28 20:23:05 UTC
I hope you all get insta-popped by spider drones.

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Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#87 - 2013-12-28 21:00:38 UTC
NERF WHATEVER THIS IS!
TurboX3
Pulling The Plug
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#88 - 2013-12-28 21:10:58 UTC
So many Goon tears, you out blobbed and still lost! Lolz = fail Goons
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#89 - 2013-12-28 21:38:09 UTC
So let me get this straight, someone shows direct evidence of a situation more nutty than squirrel **** in peanutbutter icecream and the lot of you are busy whining about how it shouldnt be reimbursed because reasons and Goons

Right.

I do agree this is now worth looking into as once could be a screwball read memory address as damage, twice means something in code.

And it better not be a dont refit in combat answer.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#90 - 2013-12-28 21:42:37 UTC
The last time it was a "don't refit in combat" answer.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

zerquse
Stellar Masons
#91 - 2013-12-28 21:58:37 UTC
Its the new Flavor of the month. Wasps are op now.
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#92 - 2013-12-28 22:00:58 UTC
NEONOVUS wrote:
So let me get this straight, someone shows direct evidence of a situation more nutty than squirrel **** in peanutbutter icecream and the lot of you are busy whining about how it shouldnt be reimbursed because reasons and Goons

Right.


Confirming that when someone whines constantly about a mechanic that works against them it is entirely without precedent for the good people of EVE Online Internet Spaceship game to troll them to keep the tears coming.

This has never happened before, YOU PEOPLE SHOULF BE ASHAMED.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#93 - 2013-12-28 22:04:03 UTC
Tetsuo Tsukaya wrote:
NEONOVUS wrote:
So let me get this straight, someone shows direct evidence of a situation more nutty than squirrel **** in peanutbutter icecream and the lot of you are busy whining about how it shouldnt be reimbursed because reasons and Goons

Right.


Confirming that when someone whines constantly about a mechanic that works against them

This thread is about a bug.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#94 - 2013-12-28 22:07:29 UTC
Grrr
Bel Tika
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#95 - 2013-12-28 22:19:14 UTC
so should i train for wasp 2? Pirate
Nerf Burger
Doomheim
#96 - 2013-12-28 22:31:24 UTC
Another creative use of game mechanics. There is a counter for everything in this game.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#97 - 2013-12-28 22:31:45 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Bel Tika wrote:
so should i train for wasp 2? Pirate

In the last thread it was Curator IIs. It doesn't seem to be specific to any drone.

Nerf Burger wrote:
Another creative use of game mechanics. There is a counter for everything in this game.

You obviously didn't read the thread.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#98 - 2013-12-28 22:47:09 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

Nerf Burger wrote:
Another creative use of game mechanics. There is a counter for everything in this game.

You obviously didn't read the thread.


Have to agree with James, Did you even bother to read before you just vomited that up with your keyboard?
Azbogah
Life of lively full life thx to shield battery
Verge of Collapse
#99 - 2013-12-29 03:20:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Azbogah
Batelle wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Saltire wrote:
Novice coder here.

Do you think the negative damage values are allowed because whoever wrote the code that controls drones/damage calculator used a regular integer instead of an unsigned int?

I can only hack the Gibson in 13 parsecs Sad

No, because a long int (same data type they use for Dscan distance) allows values from -2147483648 to 2147483647. The issue here isn't integer overflow.


I don't think we can reasonably rule this out as the cause based on the size of the hit. It could very well be an overflow that happens earlier in the calculation.


More than likely they used a 16-bit short/word not a integer. A signed word would overflow above 32,768. This could mean CCP at some point changed some code that made it never expect more than 32.7k in volley damage from a drone.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#100 - 2013-12-29 03:33:32 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
No offense but this discussion is nothing more than speculation. We really have no idea what data types they use for damage, and the problem could have absolutely nothing to do with overflow. Even if it did, there's no telling here what actually caused the overflow to begin with.

And even if they use short ints, some of the damage displayed is less than the maximum value allowed by this data type yet is still way more than is possible for a drone.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)