EVE General Discussion

Maybe Harry is right there's no real PVP in null because when we were locked in a winner takes all struggle with TEST & friends to undo literally years of their progress he couldn't find honor duels on demand at the VFK undock.

Killing cyno ships and untanked industrials isn't enough for you?

everybody in nullsec crys about high sec and that they just do PvE, why? because there is enough PvP in the game? sure not, all are searching for targets, and thats the main issue... all are frustrated that the hurdle to do decent PvP is way to big...

Because you know how much pvp people wants these days? Because you think most Eve's players want boring PVP like any boring FPS? Do you know what WILL happens if CCP bring arena in Eve? Corps and alliances will join those arenas and what will happens to players like you? You will be killed in 10-15sec. This is what you want? This kind of pvp?

Do you know what's so nice about this game? CSM. Next year, apply and show your ideas to the eve community and let the players vote. If you really think most Eve players want arena and boring pvp, they will vote for you.

Btw...if you buff anom and empire, everyone will fly T3 and no one will care killing them, because everyone will fly them. You still don't get it.

Nobody is crying but you, Harry. And your bomber for putting stabs on it...poor little fella.

Ok Im going to point out a few things to you.

1. The EVE playerbase is already PVP centric, every single thing you can do in the game is in permenant competition with other players. Your ideas are being criticised because theyre badly thought out and have had no consideration put into the possible consequences of implementing them, not because we're afraid of anything. Your abrasive writing style and constant insulting of others doesnt really help your case either.

2. FPS and MMOs are not the same thing, what works for one will not automatically work for the other. Also if you'd actually looked at any of the WoD information you'd see that they are taking way more inspiration from EVE for their ideas than from traditional MMOs.

3. The backlash against Walking in Stations was because CCP put a massive amount of developer time that could have been used on areas of the game that badly needed attention into a feature that delivered virtually nothing of what was promised. Since then theyve been understandably wary of commiting to it until they can spend the developer time on it without ignoring other areas that need work.

4. Im pretty sure CCP started making other games because they like making money and want to expand their areas for doing so wihtout having to squeeze their existing customers. Thats just good busness practice and trying to paint it as a struggle against unruly players is utterly dishonest of you. Also please show us the proof since you claim to know CCPs mind better than they do themselves.

If you'd actually bothered to do any checking you'd already realise how stupid that first statement of yours is but be that as it may.

By the way, got any proof that PVE takes up 90% of what people do in eve or are you pulling figures out of your ass like you usually do?
And since you mentioned fact checking, guess where I got the information I put in my previous post. Thats right I went and looked it up, something I recommend you do in future.

It is the understanding of almost every religion, philosophy and psychology around the World that the most powerful inhibitor of action in the average human being is the lack of need to act, and a lot of you think that the way to make someone do something is to make this person absolutely not needing to ? That is some ground breaking pull shift. LoL

No one goes to nullsec not because they dont need, they dont have something good there to do, or they cant prepare themselves properly. Nullsec and lowsec are utterly wasted and not fully enjoyed by most players because the structure of EVE does the same mistake and assumes that most players are like one model player they built but resembles almost no player.

Simple, one of EVE's most intersting "game mechanics" does not work in the software of the game, but in the philosophy of development. Things are not meant to be the way most games work. It is pretty much like democracy: Since its inception, democracy was nothing more than a gag order on the less powerful about the division of power, the old definition of democracy: Democracy is to make sheep elect wolves to decide what everybody gonna eat.

Think about it.

oh man this gets boring, just login and check how many pirate ships get destroyed each day, just hop over some systems, you see numbers like 5000, 10000, 15000 all over the map, you think those rats shoot themselves? big ratwar out there?? no man, players are shooting them down, hundreds of thousands each day across all systems just check it

then check how many player ships get destroyed, 10, 5, 2, 20... thats happening, check the systems, you never did, you live in an illusion

Well, I have run into some rat AI which appears to pilot better than player ships, after all, I doubt a rat would undock a kestrel full of plex

Or run from its mission hub near Oursalaert to fly to Jita to dump mission loot to buy orders, then fly back, grab a venture, and mine for a few hours while selling all its ore to extremely underpriced buy orders on station