EVE General Discussion

there's fun to be gained.

Apply post-modern logic OP.

Instead of "why do this if it doesn't serve a purpose/point?" think "why NOT do this if it doesn't require too much effort and/or time and/or money?"

As far as the cost of ammo being greater than your noob ship... the cost is chump change to us and doesn't really factor in to our decision making (exceptions apply).

Seriously though... you're looking too deep into the subject. My thought process when PvPing is more along the lines of, "OH!! Something to shoot! Shoot it! SHOOT EET NAO!!!" with maybe some extra tactical thoughts added on depending on the difficulty of shooting said player.

Not true. The reason I have dismissed many (albeit well-intentioned) reasons people have given is that they don't fit the situation I already described. Basically, people aren't reading my post carefully. For instance, I continue to hear explanations involving 'gate camps,' but I have already said that these aren't gate camps I am encountering. I continue to hear explanations involving loot that could be dropped, but (I think) I already said that they don't even sift through the loot - I know this because I come right back again after being killed only to find my cargo that was dropped unopened.

I also said that these folks don't seem to be defending corporate owned space, because these 0.4 systems I visit aren't corporate owned. Basically, I put a lot of thought into my original post which pre ruled-out a lot of reasons people would give, because I didn't want to waste time and text space.

Now, I didn't initially focus on the psycho or sociopath element. In fact I was initially wondering whether "experience points" were awarded for this kind of thing. It was others who said they loved to feast on tears or whatever, and others pointed out that lots of these kind of people exist. Basically, it has been pointed out that a group of people enjoy being assholes just to imagine the look on the 'victim's' face. So far, this explanation is the only one that seems to fit with the data I have given so far. It is what it is.



I'd love to see you quote me where I said this.

I never said any of these incidents occurred at gates. In fact, none of them did. They all occurred in asteroid fields. I always made it through the gates just fine. I then went flying around the asteroid fields to see how long it would take to be ganked by a cloaked cruiser. It never takes long - like 2 minutes or so in every case.

I haven't seen 0.4 sec gate camps. In fact, wouldn't sentry guns fire on the campers?

I don't see anywhere in this thread where you state where you were attacked, if you were at a star, a gate, an asteroid belt, a station etc. a gate camp doesn't have to be a bunch of dudes set up in roles, it is often just one guy in a T3 cruiser sitting off gate waiting to pop whatever comes though. Try to help us out here rather than calling us *****, will you?

EDIT: oh okay, now we're getting somewhere.

miners get killed for fun in this game. you are in grave danger if you warp to a belt in low sec as it is very easy to scan you down in with d-scan. no probes needed. particularly don't sit at the warp in beacon.

OP, you need to keep in mind that many of the players in this game are kiting on their parent's credit cards, and less than 15 years old. Just change your expectations and everything will be fine.

You have already skewed the discussion by claiming that is the only definition of a relevant point. I would think that because this a video game that people play for fun and entertainment; the fun factor for them in blowing up what is a seemingly illogical target is a relevant point as it serves the purpose of the video game in terms of entertainment and fun for them.

Yes, I think it is stupid as well. But then, when somebody goes all in with a King and a Three I consider that stupid too.

Heh, You're in grave danger if You warp to a belt anywhere in this game. :)

It seems to work a lot like the crime watch systems, only the reaction times increase the more the system security status deviates from the average low sec system.

This is absolutely true. Two examples from my corp history:

1. Once in delve we killed a rookie ship carrying blue prints worth about a billion isk entering from sakht (couple of years ago when IT lived there).

2. Caught a frigate carrying a nyx bpc in tribute one time


Both times the valuable items dropped. Eve is a harsh environment for noobs. But that is the way it always has been. But skipping on kills because you think they are not worthy costs you in the end. Better off killing everything and let the kill boards sort them out.

Looking at the average age of MMO players in general that would be true, for any other MMO. The average age of Eve players is somewhere in the late 20's or early 30's, it tends to attract a more mature audience. Some players may well be 14 or 15 but I would bet real money that most are over 30, and know for a fact that there are players well into their 50's and 60's. When I started playing I was 38, and fully expected to be one of the older players in my first player corp, I was actually one of the youngest.