EVE General Discussion

Anything other than seeing areas like this when walking into a sleeper facility will disappoint me.

First of all I want to say that I love this idea, and if/when it comes out I'll probably play the hell out of it.

BUT, and this is the big but:

How does it fit into EVE as a game?

Without seeing the prototype, judging only by your post, I just can't see any connection between my exploration party derping around a space station looking for artifacts, and the grand political strategy of empires made up of thousands of players fighting each other for space dominance. It could just as well be a whole new game set in the EVE universe, only loosely if at all connected to the EVE game at all (not unlike Dust).

I don't see how the avatar gameplay could bring anything new to the player-player interaction EVE is based upon. In the form you describe it as, I don't expect it to become anything more than PI right now - just a gimmicky minigame to gather X resource. Only without the meta-game of fighting over planets. I don't see why I should prefer EVE-avatar-sim over activating a codebreaker module, and playing a proper full FPS/3PS game afterwards.


And just to show that I'm not simply whining for the sake of keeping the status quo, here is my idea I came up with in about 10 minutes:

Many people want there to be more significant content for smaller groups of people. So allow players to board/infiltrate an enemy Infrastructure hub, and hack the upgrades installed within. Or for larger squads even disable station services. The IHub's owners in the same system will be alerted can also enter and defend it. Otherwise it's defended by automated platforms (possibly allow these to be upgraded as an IHub upgrade too).

If the attacker succeeds, the hacked upgrade(s) will be disabled for a period of time, or until the attackers are driven out by the defenders. The longer the attacker can hold the hack, the longer the upgrades are disabled. This encourages both sides to reinforce the ongoing avatar battle with more spaceships bringing in troops, and to stop the enemy from doing the same. If the respawn mechanic of avatars somehow depends on who is holding the space grid over the IHub, the fight could quickly escalate to a battle both in space and in the corridors.

Once it works out and if people generally like it, it could also be implemented as an alternative way of reinforcing or taking over IHubs - instead of blowing it up and putting up your own, you could simply take it over with ground troops.

I'm just hoping they make the most of the premise they have created. Altering gravity and lighting conditions should be taken in to account and possible allow them to be re-enabled through exploring the site. It would allow for more intense atmosphere, more creative maps and additional gameplay by allowing them to be restored. Such restoration could allow access to previously locked areas within the site or just make it easier notice items of opportunity, that are easy to miss in the darkness.

Thanks for both the decision and you informing us about it.

Just one question.

Will Team Avatar (in current (former?) or new form) be allowed to continue to look for (and prototype) new possible gameplay once the current "Expansion Frenzy" is over?

Cold, dark places, also far from safe. I think I will like it.
But please, don't make it in the way that someone can one-shoot you. It would kill all fun.

I don't see how - again, in the grand scheme of things - this is any different from exploring anomalies from my battlecruiser by shooting said sleepers with space guns. Other than the switch of the gaming genre to one perhaps not everybody (myself included) particularly enjoys. End result is the same, you go in, you shoot some NPCs, you get loot. Only the visuals differ.

Is it cool, new and awesome? Definitely!

Would I like to see CCP spend time on this instead of a working treaty system, corporation management tools, starbase mechanics, less tedious sov grinding? I don't think so. YMMV.



I don't know how you play EVE, and I have nothing against your playstyle, whatever it is. But the way I play EVE I interact with other people daily. And I would definitely rather shoot other people in spaceships than shoot some meaningless respawning NPCs in an EVA suit. Again, YMMV.

Sounds cool...curious. Carry on!

wait wait , you mean we can leave our pod in space to explore some ancient or not so ancient spaceshipwreck to look for things we can use to produce more things

Naaaah, there is nothing fun in "I WIN" button, skill, and weapon. I tried it in AoC. If you want it, you have to earn it.

Hey guys, thanks for the positive reaction. Like stated above, our vision is to make the EVE Universe the ultimate science fiction simulator. Saying that EVE is just about spaceships, is a bit like saying that phones should only be about making voice phone calls one on one with other people. Indeed they did start out like that, but as technology evolved, they become something much bigger. We hope you guys stay with us long enough for that dream to materialize.

Oh and to someone that asked if it can be safe. Sorry, nope. The EVA gameplay is not safe, it's as safe as going into a wormhole. That's also what makes it interesting.