Warfare & Tactics

well that can be in general strong problem for each one timezone sides. Careful with that. If we cooperate we can tacticaly flip nenamalia, nisuwa and heydelis in 7 hours (we did similar action in last 4 days) when most of ur blobforce will be offline... and majority of ur assets will be locked in stations. Then u can come in early US timezone and lock our assets and war is over - have fun .

Or we all can move to low/null npc systems and just roll around in logistic blobs ....

Problem is that CCP is too influenced by nullbears and is not understanding needs of low (and even high sec) people - they really should stop being goons directors and should try to play lowsec/fw. I have never heard anyone from CCP to speak about development strategy for low sec. They still see it as a transition to null (which is bullshit).

And to Hans ... fail ... hope it will get better

changing FW to pseudo nullsec is not what FW needs. If you want nullsec blob warfare and wastelands then go to nullsec. also what are the consequences when I can just leave FW for a while?

I guess the space riches & dreams of all the Mission farmers leaving if they get locked out of stations will be just that.. Dreams..

I just ran a major on the test server & it paid out 20k LP. While the time it takes to run is much longer than a single FW mission, they are still easy enough to do that plexing will simply become the new farm method as the NPC's are still going to allow for frigs to pretty much speed tank any of the plexes. So instead of having bomber alts all over low sec we will see more T1 noob alts plexing and driving LP prices down even more.


I had a second thought on the plex war front and even with the Gallentte blobs, I think Caldari can actually control the fight at this point due to how fast systems can be flipped under the current plex mechanics. Plexing for station systems will just go back to advantage of who has most guys on few hours B4 & right after DT.

Quick example of how bad this system is and why the no docking in stations is bad. Right now once a system is flipped it can't be attacked again until the next DT. This means even though Caldari are out numbered in the major prime times, a small dedicated group can grief the hell out of any Gals that choose to live in FW low sec, after this update.

If Gals continue to base in Nenn for example, after this patch it only requires a small but dedicated group of Caldari to force them out of the system by using this new no docking mechanic to it's potential for grief play. Caldari only have to hit key systems like Nenn, Rak, Vlill, Nis & Hey to drive Gals out of low sec.

How can we do this? It's very simple Caldari have historically always had more activity just b4 & after DT. Caldari plexers only have to time making systems Vulnerable to right at down time. This means right after down time they can attack the bunker & once captured, Gals will not be able to get access to their ships til the next DT & even then not until they can spend 8 hours plexing & killing the bunker.

This means even if Gals try to take back the system the next day, they can't dock until it's re-captured and Then Caldari only has to wait til next DT to grief the Gals low sec home once again.

At first I thought Caldari might have issues under the new system, but now I think it will actually put the sov war back in our favor. GL gals, I think you going to need it if the current system goes live.

Side note this mechanic seems to be lost on some of the Cal plexers as I tried explaining it, It got whined at by a couple that couldn't see past their 10 min orbit timers and thought I was jabbering up their plex channel. However perhaps they will read this post and understand. So Gals maybe you can live in Nenn a short time til they figure it out. Otherwise I'm looking for cheap BC hulls if you don't feel like moving them.

Well other option which comes to my mind, that I will create "Inglorious-Basterds state alts" where I will put all my militia alts - they will serve sitting on buttons and farming lps (in condors and some other shity ships), while rest of the boys will be "suspects" in lowsec IBS.

Low sec has several stations that belong to different empires, I've seen Anmar stations in Gallente space and the same for others why would a Anmar station deny Anmar or Caldari Millitia?

and will Caldari stations turn Gallente when captured and the other way arround?

all the complaining even before its tested ... we will see how it will work out.

I really like the non docking thing,i also hoped that i would just affect the fw stations but we will see: at least we have a reason to capture systems now
and for the alt problem:now we have tons of alts doing fw missions, soon we will have alts for plexing, i dont see a change here :-)

They made it take much longer to flip systems.

how much longer? Any idea?

I think the docking denial is a good idea since it adds some consequences for not defending a place. I am pretty sure I will regret this once my own station is taken and I am affected, but it definatelly will motivate me and others to avoid or resolve this issue once happened.

well my point is that they should introduce it all together with other features .... and properly tested .... otherwise they will make low sec null wasteland ....

BTW is anybody here who remembers lowsec before fw .... that was bad ... very very bad .... so now imagine it again