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The Devil's Warrior Alliance - HS Merc Alliance

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Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#721 - 2017-06-01 08:03:08 UTC
Lew Dicrous wrote:
To be fair, they're getting past it. Having wanked in the past does not a wanker make.

It's not too late for you either!


I don't suspect bait..I don't mission bait..I don't use 50 logi..I don't camp stations for wts..(though we all have at one point or another)

Too late for what exactly? I like the hunt..I like fleets..I like the same things I did back then..I just do them better now. I came to VMG for content..and content they provide..and I'm quite pleased.

Maybe they don't do those things any more..maybe it's because they're not active..maybe they just don't like it any more..but it's still like an alcoholic with a 30 day sober chip calling someone else an alcoholic.. The hate is trivial tbh..there was no problem until VMG wouldn't come to their rescue and wanted to stay out of issue between 2 blues. I wasn't even in VMG at the time it happened.

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..

Lew Dicrous
4th Line
#722 - 2017-06-01 08:05:51 UTC
Why do you feel like this is directed at you personally?

It burns when I PVP

Valkin Mordirc
#723 - 2017-06-01 08:12:34 UTC
I've been honestly getting the same feeling. Most of the hate that's directed at VMG you are defending seemingly at a personal level.
#DeleteTheWeak
Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#724 - 2017-06-01 08:12:59 UTC
Lew Dicrous wrote:
Why do you feel like this is directed at you personally?


Because you have no idea of what has been personal by certain people..so I find myself in a predicament.. I would stand by my fellow pilots as I would you or any other person I consider a friend. There are those who have taken this to personal levels out of game.

I just find it frustrating that so many see something in a certain light...one that I too shared at a point..that I now know is wrong. Maybe I wrongly expected..hoped, rather..that those who knew me and what kind of person I am would at least stop and consider what I was saying and take a wider view. but Meh..I suppose not it seems.

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..

Lew Dicrous
4th Line
#725 - 2017-06-01 08:27:42 UTC
I get the whole defending your flag thing, but you've just got rose-colored glasses for your current situation. Some of us might be petty, mean, or just biased, but a great deal of us are taking the wider view here. I for one am the same snarky prick you knew in Devils, but even from the outside looking in, it's plain as day. I don't think any less of you as a person for what you do with your space-pixels, but a moral high-ground here doesn't exist. It's just being called as it's seen.

On a personal note, you're a b**ch for making me type out a 2 page chocolate cheesecake recipe then never making it.

It burns when I PVP

Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#726 - 2017-06-01 08:33:52 UTC
Lew Dicrous wrote:
I get the whole defending your flag thing, but you've just got rose-colored glasses for your current situation. Some of us might be petty, mean, or just biased, but a great deal of us are taking the wider view here. I for one am the same snarky prick you knew in Devils, but even from the outside looking in, it's plain as day. I don't think any less of you as a person for what you do with your space-pixels, but a moral high-ground here doesn't exist. It's just being called as it's seen.

On a personal note, you're a b**ch for making me type out a 2 page chocolate cheesecake recipe then never making it.


Nor do I think less of you Lew...

...and how do you know I never made the cheesecake?

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..

Lew Dicrous
4th Line
#727 - 2017-06-01 08:38:31 UTC
You'd have begged to bear my children had you tasted it.

It burns when I PVP

Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#728 - 2017-06-01 09:57:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
Mission baiting, shooting GCC Code in the pipe, suspect baiting, camping Amarr for wts,... ALL mercs do this.
Euhh...no. Blink

Kaely Tanniss wrote:
I would stand by my fellow pilots as I would you or any other person I consider a friend.
And that's what all this VMG **** is about. Loyalty issues. We saw it with Marmites, Devil's and many other alliances that considered VMG friends.

If VMG doesnt want to be in the naughty corner any more, they should work on their relations, loyalty and try hunt things outside Jita area. I understand they love Jita area, as we did too, but it makes you look like neutral logi station huggers.

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Fybs
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#729 - 2017-06-01 10:04:12 UTC
Lew Dicrous wrote:
How many other HS Merc alliances have one of these at the top of their kb?

Best there is, best there was, and best there ever will be!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Very nice

I'm well jelly

GJ tho lads

Don't confuse kindness with weakness.

Beware the hand of Fybs.

Proud CEO of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#730 - 2017-06-01 11:00:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Vipsan Agrippa
Tora Bushido wrote:
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
Mission baiting, shooting GCC Code in the pipe, suspect baiting, camping Amarr for wts,... ALL mercs do this.
Euhh...no. Blink

Kaely Tanniss wrote:
I would stand by my fellow pilots as I would you or any other person I consider a friend.
And that's what all this VMG **** is about. Loyalty issues. We saw it with Marmites, Devil's and many other alliances that considered VMG friends.

If VMG doesnt want to be in the naughty corner any more, they should work on their relations, loyalty and try hunt things outside Jita area. I understand they love Jita area, as we did too, but it makes you look like neutral logi station huggers.



AND don't forget respecting client contracts. You stand for something ( the principals that define your profession ) or you stand for nothing.

A mans word is his bond, some people just don't get it. Then biarch latter when things f up.

That's why Eve is a gr8 learning sandbox for young players, with no real long term consequences.
  • Fk Bob Praise Kek! -

They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Alliances will rise and fall, but one constant in Eve is the smouldering dumpster that is C & P.

(Bob's a cuck)

Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#731 - 2017-06-01 12:47:36 UTC
Lew Dicrous wrote:
How many other HS Merc alliances have one of these at the top of their kb?

Best there is, best there was, and best there ever will be!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Good kill lads
Baited or? ^_^

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

CCL Loyalist

Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
#732 - 2017-06-01 12:53:04 UTC
Kaely Tanniss wrote:

Ralph, don't preach..Devil's does neutral logi too..I know..I was in Devil's..and I killed one of Raz's neutral logis..did you forget this? Kinda a situation of the pot calling the kettle black don't you think? There's a bit of rampant hypocrisy going on here. I'm not sure who you're trying to convince..most of the other C&P readers may be convinced and not know, but I do. Mission baiting, shooting GCC Code in the pipe, station games, suspect baiting, camping Amarr for wts, neutral logi.. all the same things that Devil's has done that you are trying say makes VMG or anyone else bad. ALL mercs do this. To call someone out on certain things that they themselves do as well with a holier-than-thou attitude...well..glass houses Ralph..glass houses..deny it if you want. I was there.


I'm checking my toons and trying to figure out what your referring to. What?

If your thinking about the incident in Niarja when you were bitching in local that you didn't want to shoot me, but some how landed as top damage? That toon was in Devils btw.. Blink

Devils have always tried to not use neutral logi, and you know that Kaely.
And you also know that Devils main thing was old school hunting (focused wars) and trained our new guys/girls with missionflipping.

I think the most recent flak against VMG recently is more in the lines of scams, no honor/integrity and fuckloads of neutral logi tho.. No glasshouses here. Oh.. and the part with you being in Devils goes both ways btw. Roll
rex largo
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#733 - 2017-06-01 13:55:10 UTC  |  Edited by: rex largo
Lord Razpataz wrote:
Kaely Tanniss wrote:

Ralph, don't preach..Devil's does neutral logi too..I know..I was in Devil's..and I killed one of Raz's neutral logis..did you forget this? Kinda a situation of the pot calling the kettle black don't you think? There's a bit of rampant hypocrisy going on here. I'm not sure who you're trying to convince..most of the other C&P readers may be convinced and not know, but I do. Mission baiting, shooting GCC Code in the pipe, station games, suspect baiting, camping Amarr for wts, neutral logi.. all the same things that Devil's has done that you are trying say makes VMG or anyone else bad. ALL mercs do this. To call someone out on certain things that they themselves do as well with a holier-than-thou attitude...well..glass houses Ralph..glass houses..deny it if you want. I was there.


I'm checking my toons and trying to figure out what your referring to. What?

If your thinking about the incident in Niarja when you were bitching in local that you didn't want to shoot me, but some how landed as top damage? That toon was in Devils btw.. Blink

Devils have always tried to not use neutral logi, and you know that Kaely.
And you also know that Devils main thing was old school hunting (focused wars) and trained our new guys/girls with missionflipping.

I think the most recent flak against VMG recently is more in the lines of scams, no honor/integrity and fuckloads of neutral logi tho.. No glasshouses here. Oh.. and the part with you being in Devils goes both ways btw. Roll


you know I wasn't going to bring this up, but now that its been brought up. I was flying one of those guards (in corp btw) and I also remember Kaely saying that she didn't want to fight us and how she was trying to get them to stop.... and then being top damage on the kill mail. maybe you shouldn't throw stones in your own glass house.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#734 - 2017-06-01 14:10:39 UTC
Wait. What's wrong with mission baiting?
Given with how badly active hunting was goat-raped by CCP over the last 14 months this has literally been my fallback activity to keep me from dying from boredom.
I am not, nor will I criticize the how things are done, but I fly at times when my alliance mates are either sleeping, working, or having vigorous sex with their favorite people.
This means solo stuff.
This means keeping yourself entertained, somehow.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVED flying twenty even thirty jumps just to catch a target in their backyard and deliver a surprise party to them personally with folks like Ralph and Mortlake. Hell, we brought less force than we'd prefer just to ensure we wouldn't miss our appointment with very important customers.
Fast and lean for speedy delivery.
But, to keep null happy, or at least moderately less cranky, CCP firmly ground their very stylish high heels deep into our nethers.
This meant that ne'er do wells such as myself had to find their own fun.
You can't expect fun to be handed to you at all times, especially if you play on the odd hours.
Mission baiting passes the time and helps keep the sharp bits sharp....
plus you can score a decent ransom now and then.
o.0

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#735 - 2017-06-01 14:11:30 UTC
i recommend removing the foot from your mouth before respondingBlink
Fybs
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#736 - 2017-06-01 14:32:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Fybs
FYI

I just finished my 5th fap to that Nyx kill....


P.S it's always been frowned at using neutral logi in devils so it is extremely rare.

Don't confuse kindness with weakness.

Beware the hand of Fybs.

Proud CEO of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Sister Sloppy-Third Consanguinea
Doomheim
#737 - 2017-06-01 15:58:14 UTC
Are you still active for mercenary work?

Your alliance is listed as an official merc outfit on the forums, but not on the Merc Contract Channel.
Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#738 - 2017-06-01 16:02:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaely Tanniss
rex largo wrote:
Lord Razpataz wrote:
Kaely Tanniss wrote:

Ralph, don't preach..Devil's does neutral logi too..I know..I was in Devil's..and I killed one of Raz's neutral logis..did you forget this? Kinda a situation of the pot calling the kettle black don't you think? There's a bit of rampant hypocrisy going on here. I'm not sure who you're trying to convince..most of the other C&P readers may be convinced and not know, but I do. Mission baiting, shooting GCC Code in the pipe, station games, suspect baiting, camping Amarr for wts, neutral logi.. all the same things that Devil's has done that you are trying say makes VMG or anyone else bad. ALL mercs do this. To call someone out on certain things that they themselves do as well with a holier-than-thou attitude...well..glass houses Ralph..glass houses..deny it if you want. I was there.


I'm checking my toons and trying to figure out what your referring to. What?

If your thinking about the incident in Niarja when you were bitching in local that you didn't want to shoot me, but some how landed as top damage? That toon was in Devils btw.. Blink

Devils have always tried to not use neutral logi, and you know that Kaely.
And you also know that Devils main thing was old school hunting (focused wars) and trained our new guys/girls with missionflipping.

I think the most recent flak against VMG recently is more in the lines of scams, no honor/integrity and fuckloads of neutral logi tho.. No glasshouses here. Oh.. and the part with you being in Devils goes both ways btw. Roll


you know I wasn't going to bring this up, but now that its been brought up. I was flying one of those guards (in corp btw) and I also remember Kaely saying that she didn't want to fight us and how she was trying to get them to stop.... and then being top damage on the kill mail. maybe you shouldn't throw stones in your own glass house.


You're right..I did not want to shoot Raz..hence why I kept pulling dps. I did, however, do what I had to do for my corp..just like you or anyone else would have done. Did it make me feel bad? Yes....up until it became such an issue for you guys. You would shot me in a heartbeat..why would you expect me to react any different?

You should know better than to go suspect in a place like Madi and not expect that things can go badly.

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..

Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
#739 - 2017-06-01 16:04:38 UTC
Sister Sloppy-Third Consanguinea wrote:
Are you still active for mercenary work?

Your alliance is listed as an official merc outfit on the forums, but not on the Merc Contract Channel.


At the moment we are not taking on any contracts and in that regard de-listed us from merc channel for the time being.
We went inactive due to a massive burnout after giving it a try relying on the watchlist workarounds to do our job.
Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
#740 - 2017-06-01 16:13:41 UTC
Kaely Tanniss wrote:

You're right..I did not want to shoot Raz..hence why I kept pulling dps. I did, however, do what I had to do for my corp..just like you or anyone else would have done. Did it make me feel bad? Yes....up until it became such an issue for you guys. You would shot me in a heartbeat..why would you expect me to react any different?


Think your missing the point...

It was a inhouse logi. Not a neutral as you claimed.

And.. it was not that you shot my alt that was the issue, as you said I would shoot you too. It was your attempts in local to smooth over relations while hammering void into my alt.