Intergalactic Summit

I quite enjoy the preaching to the choir.

Is this just something that comes with being around for a while - to actually remember the impassioned arguments and what was behind them? Because I'm trying to decide whether or not to find the predictable incomprehension amusing or not.

While many of the Houses suffered during advance of the Elder Fleet. And Empress Jamyl was able to rally and defeat those who dared to cross in Imperial Space it was hardly the Reclaiming that was spoken of.

I have noted with Empress Catiz on the throne that her commitment to the Reclaiming will not just be on the Military Front. The Empire is by far the largest and oldest of our great nations as a result will use economics to not only to improve Imperial way of Life, but the means to market it elsewhere.

The really war will not be between the Empire and the Republic, but Amarr Consortiums against Republic Consortiums.

It's frankly depressing to see someone who once stood on the opposite side of the spectrum on these matters now state so matter-of-factly that time is running out.

I suppose somewhere deep down, I always wanted to be wrong about that. That I was snarling and raging in the bit and leash over nothing. Surely I had got it wrong, when no one else said the same words. Surely they'd gotten it right, since there were so many denying or condemning my words and conviction.

Yet, it does very much appear to be true. We might quite seriously run out of something good to fight for, and end up with nothing but hatred, anger and revenge propelling us to war.

... I could still do it, certainly. It just wouldn't make New Eden a better place, by any stretch.

Yes, the Drifter assassinated Empress Jamyl I because she was unpopular. Ignorant to a fault, the purpose of the Sanmatar has always traditionally been as mediator for the Tribal Chiefs and he stepped back into that position. Of course you people assume he did it to keep power and remain popular or remain a dictator but there is no evidence of him exercising this power so he must be the most patient dictator of all time.


And Elsebeth, maybe you should disappear for another year if you are so bitter that the Republic is doing well and you mistook what he said.

Where does he say we are going to war?

No but he says he will unite the Minmatar and he did. He created a new Tribal Order and kept his word. Most would think of the Republic as a nation of warriors and not freed slaves, just as he said.

Admit you mistook the rhetoric of the bloodthirst and ignorant as representative of the policy of the Sanmatar to yourself. Embrace a Minmatar economy that grows stronger every day, less reliant of foreign aid every day. Take pride in the military that did not exist 150 years ago and has grown to be strong. Take pride that more Matari migrate from the Federation to the Republic than from Republic to Federation. Take pride that the crime rate is falling at an insane rate. Take pride that 150 years ago there was no Minmatar Republic and now the Tribes are united again, rule themselves again and are growing stronger every day.

People like you who do nothing but spit on your own nation are the reason why others like Avalykaa are no longer around. You are so angry and unwilling to see the good you point fingers and blame the very people who have made all of it happen for everything bad. Bad that no one seems to ever have a shred of evidence to support, just old rhetoric and stories Empyreans share trying to paint a darker picture of their pasts than the last worthless pirate Minmatar. Stop trying to justify your pathetic behavior and take responsibility. You will not lead other pilots to good but you will complain and spew vitrol to all of the same.

Spend another handful of months complaining how Shakor is a dictator and ruined the Republic despite all evidence and then go back to your hole for another year. Or, open your eyes to the troubles of a nation that has risen from nothing and all that it has accomplished and can accomplish. Accept the work, embrace it. See the beauty in the Republic as even someone who was taught from the time they were a child to hate it can.

For your own good and the good of every other young Matari pilot who has hope for their Republic only to see veterans like you return just to spit on the Republic and share your baseless, bitter rhetoric. Open your eyes and see Pator is rising over Matar still, the water is clean again and the birds have returned to places that were once barren.

Oh, and - if you doubt my relations with and my support to the Republic, maybe you need to double-check the alliance tag.

There seems to be a common misunderstanding of Ms Rhiannon's point vis a vis economic and military infrastructure - namely that it is entirely possible to be both improving relative to your position last year and falling behind compared to your enemy. Ask yourself if the Republic is any closer to military parity with the Empire than it was five years ago.

The ascension of Empress Catiz represents a renewed focus on trade and industry. This will yield the usual technological benefits. I seem to remember that the Empire has been first to the table with both of the major technological developments in the last couple of years - Clone Troopers and the new Destroyers.

Now the worst kept secret in the Cluster for literally decades has been that whilst the Golden Fleet is the largest fleet in being that New Eden has ever fielded, once you get past the shiny elite formations, it's largely gilded garbage. Tired hulls, slave crews and the oldest technology of any fleet in the cluster.

I'm expecting a lot of refits, going forward.

Where are these people? Who are you arguing against in this thread? I am not frustrated at anything, I am only tired. Your tone reads as angry.

And I did not say it was you who made Avalykaa leave, I worded in a way that may have made it seem but I meant that people who share your attitude and spit this same exact rhetoric of a hopeless Republic under a dictator. This picture being shouted at her from all angles got to her over time and it has been a poison in the community of Matari for the four years I have observed it.

Embrace that the Republic needs work. Do not condemn it for the same.

This much I agree. Yes, the Republic has improved by leaps and bounds in the recent years, but she isn't out of the woods yet. There are still plenty of Republic worlds, even the ones in the high sec regions, that hasn't yet reaped the benefits of economic growth. Not to mention the Republic hasn't yet reached the point where instead of simply producing enough, she's also producing surpluses. This makes her vulnerable still to the changing interstellar economic climate. Not to mention she still has to worry about the possibility of a mass influx of immigrants at any given moment.

The Republic can't afford to pat herself in the back for her achievements ever since the Tribal Council got into power. Her troubles are far from over.

And it was technically wrong. A Dictator is a singular executive who wields unrestrained power. The Sanmatar can wield no power without the approval of the Tribal Council. He is the Council's representative to the cluster, and the moderator of their internal discussions. He is not a Dictator.