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Titans in WH are reality.

Aren't now the Citadels a bit underwhelming compared to the industrial complexes?

As today citadels in general are not hard targets to destroy, however what make them really shine is the asset safety mechanics, the same mechanics that when you released them was said to make them "unique" (do you remeber the dev blog "I feel safe in citadel city"?)

Now you are giving the same mechanics to the industrial complexes, and that's a bold move, but a move I somehow agree. What forbid people to stop using (or spamming) astrauses and start using industrial complexes considering the share the same docking rights, the same assets safety mechanics and they cost 1/5th of the astrauses?

Does the release of these complexes imply that citadels need an offesive buff, at least in their medium and large counterpart?

So lowsec is losing the production buff it has in the form of the Thukker array?
Is this an oversight or intended? IF not intended, is there anything in the works to keep the current benefits to producing in lowsec?

citadels have heavy fighters. these dont

You don't need a capital shipyard to build a freighter.

(just like you don't need a CSAA)

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Large citadels have heavy fighters, medium citadels have light fighters and as you say you large complexes have light fighters and medium complexes just plain drones.

But I'm not sure the simple presence of drones is enough to justify 5-7 times the cost.

Would like some clarification on how bonuses will apply to capital building.

Large gets a max 6 me / 60 te bonus to comps, but the sheets don't seem to mention the actual capital hulls.

Can freighters be built in mediums?

How will a reinforce timer effect the jobs. Will they continue to run, or be stuck until out of reinforced?


Other thoughts.
Still no bonuses aimed at refining beyond unbonused rigs.
Massive vulnerability timers.
Fuel costs are much higher compared to a pos
Defences are utter shite compared to a pos


I was both looking forward to these and dreading them. For now i think i'll just stick to my pos.

Does all of the above better, whilst being a cheaper investment and cheaper to maintain.

It is also harder to kill, doesn't need me to baby sit it for most of my life and HAS A FORCEFIELD!.

Yes. However, currently lowsec has a bonus in the thukker array in that you cant anchor it outside of lowsec. That means, right now, you can make ships cheaper in lowsec than you can in null. With the new changes and the bonuses outlined in the blog, that bonus is going away and lowsec is losing one of the few boons that it has at the moment.

Not excited to see the longer timer paired with less HP, no fighter bay, and unable to anchor in range of citadel defenses. I'm worried my future weekends will be entirely consumed warping from structure to structure to keep an eye on them instead of enjoying the game.

It makes sense to have these structures more vulnerable than the citadel, but redistributing asset/defense locations across system, when small corps are built around managing a single central defensive point, will break the parity for small corps and severely limit access to areas of the game that are currently available to them.

Any chance to allow indy structures on same grid as citadel? Maybe extend some penalties to the citadel. Such as extended vulnerability window for the citadel, or increased damage applied.

Will the 25% bonus to engineering rigs also apply to the reprocessing rigs from the original citadel update?