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"... NPC agent spread ..."

what does this mean? more specificly? Hire Npc agents to be at your *administrative structure*? Will those be low/null-sec only? (wormhole maybe?)

I think Clone Vat Bay of wormhole system's citadel should allow to revive after death in SAME system.

I've been piddling about with the stats on SiSi and, to be frank, I'm underwhelmed by the capabilities of a Fortizar citadel for defending itself.

These are all with level 4 in all structure skills.

Subcap Missiles

Anti-small: 80.2 dps per launcher.

This actually I don't think is too bad. Frigates aren't much of a major physical threat to the Citadel itself and would usually be serving more of a support role, i.e. E-war. The Citadel shooting at Frigates wouldn't be something that happens particularly often.


Anti-medium: 160.5 dps per launcher.

Now we're getting into something that has some trouble, I feel. With logi repping, 481.5 dps, reduced by the weak application of the Citadel missiles (250m/s explosion velocity), is negligible. A Tech1 battleship gets around twice as much DPS, with T3C's going even higher, that's simply absurd. There's no reason for a structure to be able to put out less damage than a tech 1 battleship that costs an infinitesimal fraction of the cost, and is mobile.


Anti-Large: 535 dps per launcher.

With a total of 1605 dps with 3 launchers, we're now around twice the dps of a single tech1 battleship, while only being able to apply damage effectively to a battleship. There's many battleships that can tank this damage, then you throw in logi support and the Citadel can't even kill anything, even with the highest-damage missiles. T3C's can even dish out more damage than this.

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Save the anti-small missiles, all of these need a buff across the board. Personally, I'd like to see burst damage remain low, but up the firing rate immensely. Repping the primary but seeing his health gradually tick down anyways would be a much more interesting effect than seeing him bursted into his pod.




Bombs:

Anti-Small: 2000 burst, 100 dps

This is mainly intended for killing frigates, so as with the anti-small missiles earlier, I'm not too concerned about their current stats. The Citadel focusing on killing frigates is something that won't happen particularly often, and when it does it's unlikely to be because those Frigates are a threat to the Citadel itself.


Anti-Medium: 5800 burst, 193.33 dps

This one, though, is underwhelming to me. Currently it doesn't have an explosion velocity, so I'll assume that doesn't factor in to application. It also doesn't have an effective radius listed, so I can't comment on that.

The burst damage against T1 cruisers, which the application points towards being its minimum target size, seems pretty good. A Caracal gets around 25k EHP, so a single bomb can burst about 23% of its HP. This damage is applied to every ship in range, as well, meaning blobs will end up with their logi being forced to spread reps, reducing their survivability.

Against targets other than a T1 cruiser though, the damage, percentage-wise, becomes really low. T3C's, battleships, etc all end up with a small, single-digit percentage of their health being affected by the bomb.

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Bomb damage output needs a buff as well. It is my opinion that, while missiles serve for gradual DPS, bombs should be for burst damage. Taking on a structure should be a costly endeavor, and with how the stats are now it would be possible to take one on with 0 casualties. Citadels shouldn't be a solo castle of doom that can stand entirely on its own without any ship support, but it should be able to go down swinging even if it has no support.



Side note, Citadel E-war needs to be AoE. That includes warp scrams and webs. Jamming or painting a single target doesn't mean jack when you're defending yourself against a fleet.

I won't be commenting on fighters, because I haven't had an opportunity to experiment with them.

Yeah, no. Wormholes weren't supposed to be used as permanent homes, despite how they are used today. There needs to be that disconnect.

You can do everything but warp disrupt and there is no need for a penalty if your not attacking the structure then don't fight on their front lawn citadels are doing a lot to limit station games. (My favorite is you can't dock or tether if pointed

No they have since alerted it so that lagers can fit into orcas after people pointed out it was a bit ridiculous that they needed freighters and not just when it came to wh

Lol why it was just unwieldy to move larges that way you still need freighters for xl

Been searching around but couldn't find anything so sorry if this is a repeat.

With Citadels coming out with reprocessing services, are the POS reprocessing arrays going to be loosing their bonuses with this release, or is that going to wait till more of the new structures are released later? On SISI at the moment the bunuses are still there but wanted to ask since one of the dev blogs mentioned a plan to remove bonuses from the POS modules when their functions were implemented in the new structures.


Thnanks in advance

I like that. Maybe start at 3 days and have rigs/modules to decrease time. Although it would be a niche rig/module.

Does new citadels have reinforced mechanics like outposts? Or it can be destroy fully by one strike?