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It was master minded by CCP Greyscale who got sh!tcanned a few days after jump fatigue went live. Since then CCP has been busy working on citadels and very little feedback has been given on any subject in the last few months.

As usual it's most likely not the individual developers but a problem with the higher ups demanding insane amounts of work be done to get citadels into the game while planning presentations for fanfest.

Whatever the actual problem its no different than it always has been. CCP gonna CCP.

This is a route recently taken by a 100 man corp to move to a new alliances staging system.
6 jumps in 4.5 hours*, including 2 gates to travel - 27.5 LY
*This actually took 5 hours over 2 days due to fleet members falling asleep or having to get up for work the next morning.

My suggestion for jump fatigue;
A flat 10 mins between jumps (regardless of range) for the 1st 3 jumps, then a 90 min wait till you can jump again with 10 mins between each of the next 3 jumps at which time you can't jump for 180 minutes. Every 3 jumps (regardless of range) will double the wait time until you can next jump 3 times with 10 minute timers.

This equals travelling a maximum of 30LY, if you can find a route with all max ranges, in the first 2.5 hours with increasing delays before you can jump again.
6 jumps would leave a player with 3 hours fatigue before they can jump again, 4 minutes less than under the current fatigue system but getting there in 2.5 hours instead of the current 4.5 hours.

If there is a fight roughly 15LY away (3 jumps with max skills), you should be able to get there quickly enough to join it.
If it is a big fight a bit further away that will be going for a few hours - You could get there but may be stuck in system overnight when it is all over, if you survive. (Rescue fleets may even kick off new fights the next day).

It also allows players to move capital assets to new staging systems without the need to wait out nearly an hour between jumps. 2.5 to 3 hours online is about the average for someone who plays daily (those I know at least) and travelling 30LY (usually less) in one play session is not bad especially since the removal of watch lists.

Super and capital hunter groups are gonna do what they do and smaller groups need to be vigilant but by reducing fatigue to allow for slightly faster travel times over short distances, groups can more easily move from point A to B to join a fight without spearing across the map in minutes.

It also allows groups to use suitcase carriers in a less punishing way to stage or move to a new home.

This is a jump fatigue thread stupid. Not some high sec bumping thread.

1- Jump small ships in
2- Light more Cynos
3- Make parallel jumps
4- You just skipped the throughput limit

My first toon was made in 2006. I have never loved a video game like I have loved eve online. I have never hated a video game more than I hate Eve Online. I have recently logged in excited about some of the new things in the game after about 2 years away from it after some other huge drastic change that has me going "wut?"

I was there when space was owned north south east /west.

I was active during the first titan kill.

I don't understand why your changes have to be so huge and almost always detrimental in my case.

I was there when you first gave us Jump Bridges.. when you already addressed a carrier's ability to transport ships and cargo, when you gave us the jump freighter. My biggest grief in the game is generally spending 6mo's to a year training for something only for you to completely change what it's capable of. I have a charactor who was only created as a response to -A- nano gangs and he got reallly good at killing them and fending them off.. while every body else was saying "I can't kill them with my huge armor plated buffer tank!"

I'm not going to list every single decision CCP has made that has caused me to log out for periods of years, amongst many other pilots as well because I remember a time when if I traveled 40 jumps through nullsec and survived there were opportunities for many good fights along the way. The majority of lowsec systems surrounding Domain were populated and scary. Where more recently i was making 50-60 jump treks MAYBE to find one willing target to turn my guns on.. But I've felt burned many times by this game for putting my time and money into it.. and every now and then my friends and I come and look back at it to see if we can have some fun.

I have participated in maybe 4-5 hot drops in my existence in eve... and I can even see with the amount of capitals in eve now vs the amount of capitals when i first started playing, how things are getting out of hand. Yeah maybe it should have been harder to move a fleet of capitals form one end of space to the other and back having smoked a fleet within a 1-2 hour period. I never really liked how often I'd see hot drops during my last trek through eve online. But what I like less that It's going to take me SO MUCH WORK just to move my caps/goods from where I left them after the last time a change by CCP completely derailed 6-8 mo's of training on a specific character to the point that I just couldn't bring myself to play.

Speaking as one of the people who hardly logs into a game he seems to feel some sense of passion for...on this ONE specific issue..

WHY put JF on jump bridges? If they have a jump bridge they OWN the space. One of the coolest things about them when your first implemented them was that if someone wanted to invade the space i lived in in 0.0, they had their work cut out for them.. because we could be on either side of them. If someone wants us to not have the ability to defend our space in such a manner they should have to come knock the frigging thing down. Go ahead..restrict jumpdrive movement for capital ship drives.. but why nerf our home defense? Why increase required manpower and time into supplying fuel ships and mods? I don't even participate in capital battles..not yet anyway.. I like pewpewing in small fast ships. Always have..always will. I can see the need for restrictions on capital blobbing.. but it was already possible to put an end to a jumpbridge network if you had the manpower and the fleet capable of doing it. This is a game after all.. we can't be here 24/7 to be time efficient. If your thought is "Well... I can't take this JB from PL," well then you're not goons or part of some larger coalition. You're trying to live in the wrong region, unless you want to start making more friends.

You hear all of the forum warriors while bitter vets like me get discouraged from playing or participating entirely feeling rather ignored.

I want to play this game... it's one of the best games of all time. But you guys really seem to want me to put a lot of time into having fun, which is proven by the amount time spent training for ships I will likely never fly again because of how drastically they were changed and the amount of work I have to do just to move in with whatever alliance takes me in for my return to the game and nullsec, where the real fun is. And in pretty much all of those instances.. there were ways to deal with them that existed before the changes, and MAYBE a slight buff or nerf was called for.. but small changes? What's that.. let's go drastic. Let's talk about hotdropping for example - you actually have to take the bait for it to work. The lesson learned is "Don't mess with those guys.. they haz huge fleet.. we need more members...or we need join someone else." But I guess every little small corporation or alliance wants to be on an equal playing field with the "space" elite fresh out of high-sec.

Now instead of logging into pew pew daily amongst supplying my ability to pewpew, I have to think, "Do i want to JB to that fleet in such and such system? or do I want to move some ships and mods down the pipe today".. I guess I'll spend the day/week moving ships since I likely won't make it to that fleet in time gate to gate. How fun. All the while I'm imagining CCP seeing $ signs at the thought of all the eve oncrack addicts that will be activating accounts specifically for cyno alts.

We've only been using jump bridges this way for the last 10 years (more or less)...and we wonder why the alliances that were big/got big before all of these changes are still holding together, while smaller alliances/corps recruit as many players as they might lose in a given month. Seriously.. i can't be the only eve pilot who would've stayed subcribed from 2006 and on with at least two accounts if not for the drastic measures taken any time the forum warriors start complaining of how they got beat in space battle.

... you ever try to warp a fleet in one at a time? it doesn't end well

My point exactly. Cynos are VERY powerful. They should not be risk free. Having to deal with the question: Can we hold the cyno long enough to get our fleet in? is a lot more interesting to me than lets blap them and pray PL doesn't drop on us.

What I'm trying to say is that, in my opinion, cynos are not balanced when compared with traveling gate to gate. While you always risk the ships that you commit to a fight, the risk of going gate to gate is always higher than bringing them in with a cyno. The only additional risk is the cyno ship itself, which can be a rookie ship. Other than a token cost, and jump fatigue (which is annoying and gimmicky) jumping around is just flat out better than going gate to gate. I think that getting popped one at a time if you light a cyno in the middle of an enemy fleet is a perfectly a fair trade for instant travel, bypassing gate camps, stop bubbles, pipe bombs and not showing your hand. If you want to keep your fleet alive, light in a safe and bring in interdictors first to delay any incoming fleet with stop bubbles, light decoy cynos, or light it 1 system away. If that still sounds too risky, then go through gates and deal with stop bubbles, intel channels tracking your every move, bombing runs, etc.

change requires money and CCP is broke - we'll have to stick with those new broken mechanics for a long time.

Start a rental agency in each quadrant, promise buybacks, you will be rich in no time.