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It is not just capitals affected by jump fatigue. That is the problem IMO. We used to have all kinds of good fights because we could chain jump bridges to catch up with people. Now this "Local Content" being forced on us has diminished a lot of the fights that we used to get with subcaps.

I totally agree with the changes that have been made for capitals, they are perfect. However they are far too punishing on subcap fleets, black ops, etc. and it's hurting activity levels across the game.

Lessening jump fatigue on cruisers (excluding T3s) and battlecruisers would really put some punch back into the game.

I like the concept of having jump fatique affecting ship combat readiness instead of the pilot.

Like for instance a weakness in structure or maybe powergrid/cpu that takes some calculated time to heal. You can jump your capitals around all you like, but they will be more and more vulnerable as you do. Of course this opens for the possibility of having logistics in place to keep ships in store around the map, but then that's that - the cost of projecting instant power will grow proportionally. Acummulative effects on hulls, for example, could be in place, i.e. jump capable ships need overhaul after x LY of jumps. To make it progressionally resource intensive to project power.

I don't know if this has been mentioned but logistics/moving caps in NPC sov space is now an absolute nightmare.

You have to pass through sov and the locations are highly predictable.

Moving your capital out of there is now like moving a super (in terms of planning and difficulty), and overall a massive chore.

Dear CCP,

It has now been more then 6 months from the start of this thread.

I expect that you still will react accordingly and implement the feedback given.

Please let us know that at least something is happening.

So it has been 6 months and nothing happened. With the feedback being largely negative, what is the next step.

Most of the changes you're preparing for Citadels would be worthless without reworking fatty gay and jump ranges.

EVE is in its most boring state and now using caps and supercaps is a privilege only the largest alliances have. We're stockpiled more than ever and don't have **** to do with em. And no, no one is thrilled about shooting structures with caps and supers either. Is this how it's gonna be? Let us fight.

Quick note of alternative Jump Systems, Why not introduce a 'charged' drive. For example, For Quickly jumping between systems, the current jump system works well, particularly in small clusters. It would be pretty cool if we could have 'Far-cast' beacons. The idea of which follows:

Far-casters are similar to jump bridges in the sense that they can hurtle ships from one location to another.... With a difference. These immense structures can be paired over vast distances, using them can hurtle a ship to potentially very far away places.

However the downside is, that these structures can only send a certain amount of mass before they have to shut down and recharge (longer recharge times based on how often they are used, similar to jump fatigue for ships).
When activating this structure, your ship is anchored to its location for an amount of time (pending on distance needed to jump), your capacitor is slowly drained, and as with the ESS structures, your position is regularly broadcast in local.

Naturally these structures will not be able to hurtle capitals (with the exception of freighters and jump freighters), and also allow a ship to jump to fleet cynos (so long as the beacon remains for the full duration).



Using these structures will Instantly fill your fatigue timer, upon successful jump. So the main points are:

-Can send ships vast distances
-Can only be anchored at the sun (to harvest each stars magnetic field)
-Shortens potentially ++hrs of travel to 30 minutes

-Long structure down time
-High ship vulnerability
-Instant fatigue fill

With the addition of Entosis, i've come up with a cool idea for the effects that they have on the structure.

If reinforced by entosis, this structure will continue to operate, however due to the destabilised systems, any incoming fleets could (misjump) up to 3LY from the intended system. This includes any regular jump bridges leading to the system.

If this structure is destroyed, the local star will began violent spasms and (depending on type) will create system wide effects. (armor/shield/capacitor) penalisation.

There can only be one of these Bridges in each 9 LY of space.


Thoughts?

I don`t think that more caps are dying. Since that stupid jump range change, i haven`t used my carrier, neither the dread, the dread i sold and the carrier is sitting parked in low sec, that should probably sell after this post. The fatigue is annoying and the jump ranges are crap.
I believe that those limit the game a lot. Okay leave the fatigue be it and this way moving vast distances will still be limited, but please give us back the old jump range changes. Without them capitals are worthless.

I always felt that jump fatigue should be somewhat tied to the cyno, so the more people that bridge onto the same cyno the higher their fatigue.

I somehow gathered 3 days of jump fatigue while doing a Guristas Fleet Staging Point (using jump bridges).
Next day there was a strat-op I joined, there was a jump, my jump fatigue grew to 4days, and 12 hours timer before any jumps. Good thing my ship exploded during that op, else I would not have been able to come back with the rest of the fleet. Right now there is another strat op, but I chose to wait out 1day to get rid of this fatigue...

Why do we even have jump bridges? Jump bridges should not add fatigue.

Also - jump clones timers. How am I supposed to PVE for isk and PVP with the same pilot? No, I will not be using any alts, on principle.

Why does jump fatigue adds less if I travel with an industrial ship than if I travel in my capsule?
What am I going to do with the capsule, jump to the other side of the map and blob the unsuspecting enemy with capsules?