Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I hate to be a pain. I have created this character fairly recently. (About 1 month old). I am over 400k sp now, but many of the skills to be added to new pilots I don't have. 400k sp is quite a bit of training, which I would love to have had, but no use complaining about that now. Is it possible for you to maybe add all the new baseline skills to all pilots rather than a boost for the few select pilots who just missed the vanguard release?

I'm sorry, does having a skill that you never use on a skill sheet you never look at make you sad?
Frankly it helps out newish player far more than unallocated SP would.

I should hope so. At one month old you should be more than triple that.

The skill grant can be defined in terms of raw SP amount, but that's not actually the goal of the change. If you look at the skills involved, they're almost all going for the early "You cannot fit module X until you train Y" barriers. I'm in a similar position with this alt. I'm sitting at 1.6M-ish SP, but still can't fit an MWD because I don't have that tiny little pre-req.

Why? Because I didn't want it. I had other goals in mind for the skills on this alt so I didn't bother training that. You've had the opportunity for that too. If Mining III, Industry I or Amarr Frigate III were really that important to you they would have shown up in your skill queue before the end of your first month. You've made it over the early "I can't fit anything!" speed bump, so CCP doesn't really need to add or change anything to get you into the right place.

So yeah, I'm with you: Grand 350 million SP to everybody and be done with it. But I get why CCP isn't falling all over themselves to retroactively grant newbie fitting skills.

+1

This proposition has my full support.

what about willpower and memory?


What they should do is remove the charisma points and spread them around. and give a couple more social and trades skills when people start the game.

Quick question on a current item, or at least one around when I started. there was some sort of item you had that would temporarily boost training speed for new accounts. I believe it was in the redeemables tab. Im hoping you are either
1 getting rid of it and making that boost automatic
or
2 it is part of the boost in SP they get from the start.

such an item is silly because many of the new players, like myself at the time, had no idea they existed and wasted them by letting them expire and disappear from the redeemables tab.

cant find the item name im sure some vet or newb trainer would be able to name that thing.

There are three different kind of "cerebral accelerators"

And it is not for new players, it is for old vets who want to boost the training of their alt chars :)

IMO any bitter vet with 100+ million SP who feels this way is just simply bad. There is a decreasing return to SP in general. That is the difference between a 100 million SP character and a 120 million SP character is not that significant.

400,000 vs 50,000 is huge.

This is a good move, I personally think giving the players a chance to tailor it a bit would be nice, but than again many new players don't have enough knowledge of the game to necessarily make a good choice.

As I predicted back in some of the other threads on this topic. I think more than 2 weeks is necessary. I'd say a month, and after that make it a decreasing amount so that a 2 or 3 month gets 0 SP. And since these players probably already trained alot of these skills that are being boosted, give them free SP. They have enough time in game to make reasonable decisions.

I don't think that is necessary as I for one wouldn't want to be given free skills (especially in mining). Id suggest any character under 3 months old should be given some free SP though to avoid hard feelings as when in your first couple of months 400k seems like a lot.