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Capitals (Specifically Carriers, Not Supers/Dreads) in Highsec plz!

Limit the amount of drones that can be deployed and restrict Capital modules from being used in Highsec . (Like Bombs/Bubbles...etc)

Please bring back Wormhole projection. Just because PL put hundreds of man hours into something to create content doesn't mean it should have been nerfed.

I am approaching my 11th year in Eve so I have seen many changes and generally been quite happy with what CCP have done over the years. I also don't normally post as as I cant see it ever making a difference but I feel its time I did

I will not comment on the sov changes as I generally steer clear of sov at all costs, but I do recognize that there are issues with the current system. Two ideas I heard in the past that I thought was great: NPC Stations in all 0.0 / Depleting moon minerals...

I would however like to comment on the Phoebe jump changes and the affect that they have had on my personal play style. I was very 'pro' the changes put forward by Greyscale and understood fully that something had to be done to control force projection.

What concerned me at the time was the seemingly rushed changes and the speed and severity in which it was implemented. Pre-Phoebe I had 6 account and moved around freely enjoying what eve had to offer, as a roaming PVP group we used to travel all over eve looking for pew and taking in the sights and living from region to region. I am a family man and work hard to support said family so my time has always been reasonably limited.

Post-Phoebe I am down to 2 accounts and really struggling to keep up. Recently my corp moved to a new home, not a great distance but most certainly 2 days by traditional carrier jumps - gates are not an option due to the nature of the route. Now in all honesty this is not a major issue as my corp mates are epic and help to move my stuff and I am aware of 3rd parties I can pay to haul my personal stash, this did leave me behind for a few days and I missed an amazing battle because of it I have always been self sufficient in eve but I am no longer able to be so.

I also have a super, well now it is unsubbed because the thought of trying to move it makes me feel sick and quite frankly puts me off even considering it.

I feel that everything has become more of a chore, tedious almost. I went on a black ops roam the other day and ended up stuck in a hostile system with a 40 min timer I thought you know what, I cant be bothered / dont have the time for this and logged out.

So yeah, difficult to explain and I'm sure i haven't explained it very well, but Phoebe has had a big affect on the way I play or struggle to play as the case is now old fart.

Jump Ranges to me should be adjusted

Carriers shifted to 5.5 au
Super Capitals to 7 au
Titans to 8 au
Jump Freighters 10 au
Rorqual 7 au
Blops can remain how it is

I fully Believe those Big Behemoth ships should be able to outshoot smaller jump drives. For the Expensive of players purchasing them, the time invested in building them. The cutting edge technology they envelope. It should be able to move further than its smaller siblings.

If you want Nullsec to be these deepspace communities Logistics needs to be able to flow. The JF's need to be able to move and so do the Rorquals in your new Environment. The Rorqual alone is a Depressing investment these days and an entire conversation in its own. Nothing compared to how Titans and Super Capitals got its legs butchered out from under it. The Players got screwed big time over it. I never wanted to get into a coffin before.. I damn well don't want to now. Hell I didn't even bother training for a suitcase.
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Jump Fatigue should remain tied to a character. But the Fatigue part should be gone. Players should not suffer because they followed training plans that you laid out. They jumped into the ships you heavily promoted in advertising and used them everywhere just to be punished later on by their favorite company. Those players who Flew those Bad boys made you headlines on every major media network with the big fights. Now.. EVEs heard of in the media about as much as I am.

Get rid of the Term Fatigue.. keep it tied to the Character.. Make it a Flat hit 5 minutes or so. Have a countdown on the screen for "Drive recalibration" or something of the sorts. Every 5 minutes.. Players drives are re-attuned and able to reactivate the jump field. Call it what you want. Harmonizing. Field Calibrating. Set a Hard Cap X minutes before a player can Jump again with a Jump Drive. Players will NOT be able to scream across the universe to Dumpster into a fight as quickly still, But they also will not be punished for having to move from one area to another. If X player only has 4-5 hours to play the game a day due to family or work obligations.. it should not take a week for him to move from X to Y due to a mechanic. That or make Fatigue cooldown faster after the player is offline for X hours. Nerfing force projection is one thing. Nerfing an entire player base because of one group is another.
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Jump Bridges via POS's and SOV holders. These are already costing large and small alliance alike money to run, fuel to use, Fees to have active and time before it can be installed. These Bridges should always be in attunement with each other since they are in constant communication with each other. They are not jumping to a randomly lit cyno in the middle of nowhere. Let players move around the SOV you wanted them to move into freely. Let them reach these trade hubs you want them forming. Let them be able to have strategic value to cut off an enemy moving. These Bridges are Not throwing a fleet from Outer Passage to Period Basis in a matter of minutes. Let entities move around the territory they protect quickly. It helps Industrialists, it helps PVE and PVP. Players get to use, protect, and deliver goods and courier around making use of the space they hold.

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The Rorqual (speaking on an INDUSTRIAL USE only.. not the rare Battle Rorq)
Burn the Clone vat Bay. In the current Meta of EVE you just made it even more useless. Anyone can now goto any station and make a jump clone, standings don't matter. Dock at NPC nullsec, pop a clone. Land in Lowsec... Pop a clone. Get rid of the Clone vat bay.

Boost the Rorquals Effectiveness compared to the Orca. Currently its more effective and cheaper to hold a Orca on field vs a Rorqual. While Active the rorqual does beat the Orca.. but only as a booster. A pos Compresses (which the rorq sits in.. same as the orca...) Due to the current Meta of EVE.. the rorqual is POS eye Candy. A Expensive Eye Candy in relation to an Orca.

Give it a Bonus to Warfare links undeployed of 5%. Keep the Deployed bonus at 10% or boost it to 15% deployed.

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You guys want to see players moving around, ships being used. Less AFK and more activity. With the new mechanics youve dropped log in numbers and active numbers. Make us able to move around again. You want local content.. stop nerfing us moving around our Local areas.

I don't care what you try to tell us.. The launcher shows differently. When I am used to logging in at any day to 35,000 characters in game... Vs now 17,000 at times touching 28,000. Its a difference to the Player bases eyes. We don't look at your statistical tools. We have also become very.. Very Untrusting of what you toss at us.. because you have caused this distrust in loyal players. You were on our pedestals.. statues to be built.. Now we just want to toss a rope around it and Tear them down. Until you rebuild that Trust.

uh

"we were eager to hold this round table about something we knew we couldn't give you guys any straight answers on"


I don't want to just degenerate into ad hominem here but


are you guys dumb?

Honestly don't have the time to read all the previous posts, but skimming them showed some interesting ideas. However in terms of SOV.. I personally hate it.. But an improvement suggestion could be something like this:

Add a decay timer to unfinished business. Let's say an enemy half-arsed entosis links a TCU, but is chased off half way through it The TCU goes into Overtime during the next Invuln state because it hasn't been entosised back to secure. IMO after 24hrs of not being touched negatively or positively a decay timer back to 'secure status' should happen. This includes nodes, stations, hubs whatever. It would mean the endless cycle of inty trolling would have either end.. or literally be constant... which I doubt anyone wants.

Jump changes? I like the idea of no fatigue within a 10LY sphere.. TBH 8-10LYs for caps with max jump skills should be the norm but leave the fatigue alone. I can work with fat. With a 5LY range it just makes even USING a cap with no intention of force projecting a literal CANCER. BLOPS should have a reduction in fatigue, maybe a boost in range but again there are issues with BLOPs projection.. SO I guess it's all in a matter of compromise.. At the moment the current mash up of the fatigue / rang versus this horrid sov system where troll ceptors rule... makes the game more annoying than anything.

Just my two cents.

I think a lot of the problem I am seeing in this thread and as a whole is that we have attracted a vocal portion of players who feel entitled to do everything they want with immediate effect.

Many people have got used to or been bought up on a cushy carebear lifestyles which has been created for them by their null sec overlords. If you join one of the big null sec alliances nowadays their organisation is such that they have created a theme park for their members. These people have never understood or have forgotten the harsh realities of carving out an empire in deep hostile territory.

I've noticed a trend, a lot of the older pioneers in eve were more than happy to do activities such as convoying a freighter though null sec in order to setup their empires, or mine for months to get a battleship. They'd be polite on the forums and we had a very nice community where everyone accepted eve was a difficult 'hardcore' game intended for a mature adult audience.

In the last year or two in particular I've noticed a downward trend, and this latest incident confirms this. We get this stream of newer players from cesspit's such as redit who are full of entitlement and if they don't get what they want they'll shout and scream and try to rile up the redit herd who will then turn on the Devs and yell all manner of profanity.

The point I'm making is that through super organised big null sec alliances able to create a theme park experience for their players, and with the constant attempts by CCP to attract this entitlement crowd by continually dumbing down or reducing the hardcore nature in certain aspects of the game, we have attracted a vocal portion of players who will complain at anything as they feel entitled to have the game exactly how they want it and they want all of this immediately.

I am certain that the majority of players are more than happy with the recent jump fatigue changes as is born out by the metrics you posted in the initial thread.

My solution would be to toughen things up even more so, return eve to its hardcore nature where we get real consequences for death, and people have to put in time and patience to achieve the things they want. Let the entitlement crowd rage and eventually quit, they aren't a positive element of the community anyway and will drive more people away if anything.

In relation to fatigue in particular I thought the idea that someone else posted in this thread a good one, which is that capitals should have varying ranges rather than a blanket 5LY range so that it offers an interesting choice for players who want to perhaps push the forward element of their capital fleet out further to attack a target and leave the rest behind.

I think fatigue is great as a concept, but perhaps look at changing the formula so that the time between jumps is longer, but the fatigue accrual is less punishing.

Hey Larrikin!
I'm not interessed about 0.0 lamadrama nerds nolifers and I'm really sorry that this kids came out with salty words and moaning about the new sov etc.

I will drop now my 2 cents and again, sorry for the few retards that just moan, you are doing great, don't listen to them.
1) fatigue atm should be nerfed, ok; not removed, just nerfed.
2) remap and stats must be removed as useless skills like cpu upgrade and powergrid upgrade removed too.
3) wormhole nerf must be nerfed. I liked the previous version.

5) !!!!!!!!! You know better than me that EvE is a sandbox and players create content right? Right. You know better than me that 0.0 sucks because CFC and PL are allied and created stagnation and this won't change with fozziesov or any other new and fantastic sov project; why? Noone can even think about fighting CFC in a direct fight, cuz noone can win. The only group that could be able to "invade" cfc are PL because they have loads of supers (eve suffered the last big player loss after PL roflstomped BRAVES) but they are so bad at PvP that they decided to blue.
Witch new entities do you think that are going to grab some sov? Braves tried months ago and they were many, but what happned? ****** nerds from PL decided to roflstomp them to show theyr big epenis.

You have to find a way to directly speak with mittani and pl leadership and tell them to **** off. Find a wy to disband cfc and if you cant find it, ban them all, so noone will keep offending ccp. And noone will miss cfc/pl nerds.

Cheers

Larrikin think well: who are the people that complains about boring 0.0? Cfc nerds, right? Next time tell them: stop blue 40k people and stfu. Again, ban them all, they are killing your game.

Large scale fights? You wont see any soon, I'm sorry for you. The only coalition that was able to contrast you guys died with the last war almost 1 year ago. How cant you understand? Is not fozziesov fault that you cant have fun, it is just because you decided to join the largest coalition of the game. I can't understand how you dont understand...
I have the right change for you: man up, find your lost balls and leave cfc with your friends and start to fight them. I'm sure you will have fun. I did few years ago and I strongly suggest you to do so.

Other way around. If you have these changes then Industrials go the furtherest, then carriers and dreads after that. Titans project the least distance.