EVE General Discussion

Well since I started in 2009 I have lead a corp that got up to 80 characters, was second in command of an alliance, been director of two other corps and got involved in two attempts to create Hub Zero and got involved at a low level with teh AG movement. However in spite of this I have spent significant time playing solo, mainly because my play time does not over-lap with too many, being during the week and during the day EU time.

Eve as a game needs to have solo play for people to enjoy, and one of the issues is that the game has been made easier for hunters, earlier in this thread I explained my reasoning for my dislike of the D-scan immunity of combat recons, for me it was a direct blow on solo players and followed a number of other hits on this type of play.

Earlier I expressed displeasure that CCP does not have any meaningful hard PvE content in hisec to be met by the normal trolls having their love in that this content has to be in space that exposes them to player killers so they can get easy bling kills. The issue is that no one from hisec will go and do that content if in low sec or null, the key thing is to get something in hisec which requires group play. Of course certain trolls who maximise everything will then declare that Elite mission runners will find a way to run them solo so CCP should not do it.

Why create a type of mission that requires group play but does not expose you to player killers, simple, its to get people wanting to join a corp (due to reps) and to get used to group play, and having such content in hisec may start to break some of the hisec player base away from solo play.

Null sec anoms are going to be improved with the current sov changes, no matter what the trolls say being in Deklin with the Goons is the best way to make ISK in the game. Incursions can only be run by so many and doing level 4's is mind crushingly boring. The best fun I had in game was making ISK belt ratting in NPC Stain in 2010 when I had people actively hunting me, and if you can get some PvP out of it too where you make them make mistakes its pure joy, I made 20m an hour, and I was called a noob by people earning more, who had no idea at the tactical and strategic skill I had to use to make that 20m, yes I was a noob, lol.

Solo play is part of this game even if you dual box, and CCP needs to accomodate that, because do you really want your player base sitting around idle while waiting for others to log on?

CCP needs to create meaningful group play in hisec and even if you need to keep the rewards down, just do it, I want to be in there with my mates having a laugh and not have to keep a massive watch list of all those lame players who only log on to kill something and who are in fact destroying Eve with that type of play. They hunt people who try to do something in this game and part of my irritation in terms of this game is that CCP fails to understand just how destructive this is to their player base. Do I really want to have multiple watch lists for all the hot dropopers and other bored people just waiting for someone to do something, no, its like watching paint dry.

You can listen to Kaarous and Jenn and just continue ignoring the reduction in hisec players, but this will hurt you CCP. When we saw that CCP were attempting to change things that had caused stagnation in the game I got a number of players back, we are not happy with the direction of these changes, the ability to get API data on sov makes it too easy for this ping players to just log on and kill as third parties, but we have decided to keep subbing with real money to show our support, but I can tell you now, I will no longer do it in 2016 if I feel you being CCP have not realised what you need to do.

I have had a lot of fun with this game, but lets be clear, I and many like me see no fun in being patsies for people like PL and others like them, if that is your game design then Eve will die.

EDIT: For the trolls, I spent the majority of my time in null sec, so saying things like not leaving hisec is very wide of the mark and shows your inability to check back on someones killboard.

I refer to the people who just login to kill someone as lame, what benefit are they giving to Eve, especially if they are just paying for their plex with ISK that they have built up over many years of play?

That's odd, most people I encounter are pretty nice, or at least briefly tolerable.

See, you lot always claim that, but then CCP, the only people with the hard data on the matter (because it certainly isn't you, as we established earlier), seemed to have zero issue dropping potentially thousands of ISBoxer characters. It hasn't seemed to bother them at all, in fact.

I wonder who's right...? Wait, no I don't wonder that at all.

maybe the reduction is because people have moved to other areas where they can try other things, because you know...not everything is in highsec

So basically what you're saying here is "I'm mad that I broke the EULA/ToS and got caught." Sorry man, but abiding by the EULA/ToS when it comes to interacting with other players isn't "playing the meta". It's following the rules as they are laid out by CCP. No, getting your ship exploded in a ship exploding game does not give you any sort of "right" to go off on someone like that.

And yes, you're right. Every time a gank target flings abuse, threats, homophobic slurs and the like at me just because I've engaged in a legitimate game activity, they will get reported. I've dealt with crap like that my entire life, and I'm not going to deal with it in a game I play to relax and have fun.

I'd much rather have an Eve world with (marginally) lower sub numbers, if those subs aren't being abusive to other players.

Proof, it would be quite silly and perhaps fun for me to just turn around and say to these strident calls for proof to say prove that I am wrong, but what is the point.

The Star Citizen event was simply I came across 10 ex-eve players 9 of them had been ganked in mining ships and had left the game due to the inadequate protection these ships had. It was interesting for me as for years I was saying to CCP along with others that it was bad game balance to have the best protected Exhumer with such a weak tank that a single destroyer could destroy it and pod the character in a 1.0 system. It took CCP too long to work that out and they lost a lot of players due to this.

Proof, well I met ten people in a organisation that was interested in trading and production, so hardly representative of Eve as a whole, but even then it is a telling number who all had the same issue that meant they left the game.

All I can say is that the Skiff rocks and that is why you often see CODE players complaining about it.

I have played pretty much solo for my eight years in the game.

I accept the limits this imposes on me, but it my choice, no one forces me to play solo.

Team working takes a lot of effort and is justly rewarded.

I've played solo for most of my 7 years and it's not for lack of trying to join corps and alliances. I just hate having to wait for people to be online or for them to be ready for the roam that was scheduled for a certain time. I think more then anything it's the players not CCP that cause me to play solo. Most of them are just annoying bastards.

The other issue I have is that if you don't PVP in the traditional sense there's usually no place for you in the large alliances. So how does one join in the fun when you build **** rather then blow it up, when you fly logi rather then DPS, or do any of the other things you can do in Eve that can't really be done in a group.

There needs to be more opportunity to work as a group in things that don't involve shooting others directly.

Christopher Hitchens a very educated and respected man, he used to swear at times, so what, stop being a baby!

There is a place for both solo and group play. Creating a balance between the two is very difficult but it's doable. It'll always be harder to solo that's a given - problem is CCP set on to make it literally suicidal.

Two Lokis vs 1 Loki is naturally tough to beat if you're the lone Loki but when you factor in links given 30% more boosts for each of the two it becomes ridiculously tough.

You can have every skill trained to 5 in mind linking but unless you have some alt in a gang in system it does jack.

One prime example of how the mechanics are designed to nerf solo players against 2 or more combatants when solo vs 2 or more is already naturally hard.