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In a continued effort to make sure that the skill of every member of your fleet counts towards the fight, we are making changes to fleet warp mechanics. We've already had a torrent of feedback, and today CCP Larrikin has a dev blog with more details on what is changing.

I like the addition of broadcasting a bookmark, not so sure it needs a delay (unless that's just unavoidable). Will have to see it in action.

If there wasn't any delay it would just surpass the effect of these changes.

There is already a propagation delay for corp bookmarks that seems to take from a few seconds to a minute plus, probably based on server load and other variable factors.

Has the bookmark propagation delay been embedded in code in the form of "at least x minutes/seconds"?

RV

I think reverting the scan probe time back to ~40 seconds would have fixed a lot.

Instead your using magic to add special cases which not only increases the depth of difficulty for newer players but increases the headache for FCs. Special casing is BAD. If an object is warp-able, it should be warp-able for a fleet.

Uh what. I don't understand what you mean with stopping bubbles and slippery petes - They're bubble immune. This change will make them harder to catch(?) and thus making everyone fly them. The only counter to slippery petes are combat probing and landing right ontop of them with scrams. Y'know, the very thing you just made harder.

Stop bubbles (aka defensive bubbles) are those which are placed to pull a hostile fleet off of it's intended warp-to target. So you drop bubbles between a hostile fleet and your own fleet so they cannot land on top of you. He is not describing a hostile fleet bubbling another.

And that is the problem. Slippery petes are bubble immune so they can dictate the entire fight unless you land right on top of them which is now made harder.

"Bookmarks (newly created bookmarks will have a delay before being broadcastable)"


How much of a delay will it be?
Will the broadcast allow members without the BM (in other corps) to get the BM and be able to warp?
Will there be fleet BMs (in the same manner there are corp BMs)?

CCP Larrikin, thank you for taking the feedback and modifying your proposal. I believe this set will get you much closer to promoting the individual involvement you seek to promote.

You know what would make this close to perfect? Allowing fleet members to warp to a probe result. Right now, we're still stuck with the tedious and time-wasting warp to the FC alt who does the probing. If probe results will be broadcastable, it allows for individual pilot action while reducing time people are sitting on their hands.


Yeah? That's more about luck than any skill, since you can't navigate around what you can't see. With the current changes, the first bomber to decloak will give away the position on the others, so will require superb coordination. Which is great. And infinitely better than your silly ideas.


He meant other sniper doctrines - BS- and BC-based ones - which will be able to deploy those defensive measures.