EVE General Discussion

I thought you would have a better grasp on how eve currently works. I know it is not just about me but I am the most important person in my opinion and am allowed to express my views. If you don't like my views you are free to unsubscribe from the thread, I nor anyone else is forcing you to follow it or to agree with me. Just don't bother trying to tell me it would be better if I just give up and leave.

Nulsec is the primary driving force behind keeping eve alive. Maybe that is wrong but is how it works.
Every manufacturer, miner and many others rely on nulsec residents to make their isk. Either directly or indirectly.

Manufacturers rely on products only available from the large coalitions to do their manufacturing. Every highsec miner in some way relies on nulsec residents (at this time mainly a few giant coalitions) for their income to play the game. Even the mission runner who sells his loot is in a way relying on nulsec. Imagine - No-one from nulsec brings raw materials or faction blueprints or whatever else they bring to sell in highsec. Then add, they aren't buying products from the highsec markets hubs either.

The main reason there is so little content in nulsec is due to the large coalitions, this has a roll on affect to the rest of TQ. Look at some market history, see when prices were at their highest and what was happening in EVE (not just Jita where the market is) and you will find, market highs and lows correspond closely with wars in nulsec.

CCP left JF's with less fatigue and longer jump range for 2 reasons - 1. So nulsec alliances had viable transport to allow selling of products and purchasing what they can't produce locally. 2. So the highsec manufacturing industry didn't die due to lack of customers and products to manufacturer with.

Turning Sov Wars into nothing more than mini games revolving around a new module in set 4 hour periods each day shows a lack of creativity on the part of Devs. They state they want to decrease mass fleet grinding, then introduce a module that is designed to grind in a series of mini games which will be won or lost by numbers in fleet.
FW 2.0 is replacing Sov Wars. Just on a larger scale with far less rewards.

Yes currently I am bored as hell simply because there is no real content. Existing content drivers have been manipulated by nulsec empire builders and the proposed changes do nothing to change that. As long as there are giant coalitions running nulsec, there will be no real conflict simply because the conflict drivers favour large groups of players. Who have too much to lose by actually going to war.

My preferred play style - Sov Wars, battles in big ships, small gangs roaming around looking for fights, fighting for something meaningful not destroying something just for the sake of it or so someone else can benefit from it. Not fighting because X alliance can't defend their space so because you are part of the coalition you HAVE TO go and help them.
I say screw them all. Scrap coalitions and armies of blues. If an alliance can't hold their chosen place to live without having to call in thousands of allies - They don't frekin deserve the space. Blue status should ONLY be for trade and logistics.

CCP is turning the giant renter networks (which are bad) into a game of extortion and threats. The ruling bodies may choose to continue to call it rent but reality will be far closer to blackmail and extortion. Some of the renter alliances will be absorbed into existing coalitions because they are useful to the empire builders, which only strengthens their hold on sov space and in part, the rest of eve.

I'm not trying to "win" people over to my way of thinking and if some rookie reads this and leaves the game over my comments, he really didn't belong here anyway, did he.
Eve is about achieving what you want by any means at your disposal - I am powerless to initiate real change as an individual but via the forums I can attempt to find support from others who feel as I do and get the attention of CCP in the hope they may consider taking the hard line and really reviving nulsec and therefore, eve as a whole.

PS; the link you posted - 500 Server Error; Why do you presume I didn't donate?
Why do you presume and call me a liar? DON"T presume to know what you have no idea about. That Donkey shite, just landed on your face.

i didn't assume anything,, i suggested,,, you assumed,, again

all of these things you claim to love are still there, i can get you into a null alliance that's looking for bored guys like you. something to fight for you say. what's better to fight for but your mates.

you're bored man,, i can do nothing but offer you advice or help, but you seem hell bent on EVE is dead or about to die because you think so..

sorry for the bad link,, my bad.

you know well where you earned that isk you claim to have so much of and maybe just maybe it's one of the reasons you don't have 10 accounts anymore.. one of your main play styles that's been stolen from you.
is this the true reason man ? i'm not assuming anything,, i'm asking you.

or is it just as simple as not being able to sit in a super hot dropping ?

because there is plenty of small fights and roams and pvp like actions out there. all that's cut back is supers..
you've already admitted to not being in a fleet for over a year,, so i don't know man.. sounds like burn out to me,, with a side dressing of whine.

take a break for a while,, you're just ranting on about how it's too late,, nothing can be done,,,, we may as well all go home..

Goons won EVE... do you know how many times i've heard that bullshite the last 8 years?
anyway i'm done on this thread., i'm gonna leave ya with lets just agree to disagree.
best of luck to ya man, o/

Ultima, Anarchy, Everquest, Dark Age of Camelot, plenty of games that required some intellect or social skills to move forward and pre-date Waste of Web.
The top complaint about Ultima is that it was dumbed down and made carebear friendly, the PVP anywhere was removed.

By the way, you can still get Blockout, kid.

CCP should reduce the bonuses on black ops and industrials by 10% each month.

So much hate to a null sec boys! Take your guns and ruin their game by yourself why should ccp do the dirty job for you?

Why?

What's the logic for such a seemingly arbitrary approach?

Wouldn't it be better to make evidence based decisions, where if CCP do still plan to remove those bonuses, it is done on the basis of the strength of nullsec industry; and tied into the reason for introducing it in the first place?

For the role of black ops, how does nerfing their black ops capability assist with them being functional in the game? It's not blackops projection that was the reason for introducing jump restrictions.

but trusting CCP to always make the best chocie when presented the option between what the data says and what the loudest whiners want doesnt always pan out too well

Nulsec industry is nowhere near self sustainable at an alliance level, it isn't even viable for a large corp.

Yes there is a lot more industry happening in nulsec due to changes but that does not make it (self) sustainable, without access to materials, which generally requires a trip to highsec.

Nullsec has not needed any highsec materials since the change to Outposts which came with the Industry changes.
It is Nullsecs choice to export their local moongoo to high sec then import other goods from highsec also, not a material that only highsec can provide.

Now if Moongoo is an issue, then passive gathering of it as POS needs to go. And die in a horrible fire.
And be replaced by a far more efficient(faster) but interruptible active form of gathering the same materials. Which then allows all moon goo to be in every region because it's pilots in space at risk, not a deathstar POS which requires a significant attack fleet.

And if 'isk/hour' efficiency is the complaint about mining Veld & Scordite in Null from the static belts, get over it, self sufficiency is not always the most efficient way forward on a pure isk basis. So if you want to all rat then buy your trit, put up with importing it. Otherwise go mine it from all your static belts as well as the anoms.

So we should have CCP arbitrarily nerf things for our own self serving purposes before someone else does, because we don't trust them to be objective?

Is that the thrust of what you are saying?