Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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3039 / 4558 m/s OH m/s.

Xaxaxa.

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Xaxaxa.

No Quafe.

Xaxaxaxa.

10MN AB, 372 DPS with dual MASB.


Proof: 360 m/s * (1 + (1.7225 AB bonus * (15,000,000 AB Thrust / (1,500,000 shipmass + 5,000,000 AB mass))) = 1824 / 2736 OH m/s, and 3039 / 4558 m/s OH m/s. in Propulsion mode.

Xaxaxa

6 km/s AC 10MN Sviipuls are a go. The above setup fits with 5 PG to spare.

I'll throw in 2x Small Neuts with a little modification in a second.



Hafta figure out which mods to swap out for faction due to being 18 CPU short.

A little slower: 2852 / 4278 OH m/s. ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)



They can? ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)

Xaxaxa, thank you CCP Fozzie & Team!

Minmatar Tactical Destroyer V in progress

Iroquoiss Pliskin, you make it sound like you had no idea how fast the ships were before.
But enjoy your poor-tank, no-range, moderate speed Svipul.

Heat for days

Wouldn't change give the Svipul a little over 19% increased performance in heating its guns in a ship with an already flat 25% reduction in heat damage?

They're not bad if the trade off is appropriately large.

CCP Fozzie - the man.

I am kinda glad that fitting 10MNs by default is no longer required.

I feel free.

FREE!



Used to run everything upto 5/10s in a DLB Confessor awhile back while in LS.

Because it's extremely fun gameplay when you have to either fly a svipul or a svipul counter. It's almost like there are 200 other ship hulls that don't exist...

Hey Fozzie! Thanks for the great work on balance. Everything's been amazing the last few years, though I was getting worried with the T3 release since you guys had previously said T3's would be on the power levels of navy faction but versatility would push it up in worth...and instead it was above current T2 levels and the versatility just made it more powerful on top of it - though you didn't have a real comparison on dessie navy/T2 levels and you wanted people to be excited about T3 dessies, so super understandable. and the versatility just made it more powerful on top of it. Anywho, both the initial nerf and this reaction to the feedback is amazing!

That being said, I would like to sound a concern on the speed. It's been kind of disheartening that with real game builds the ammar dictor actually typically ends up with higher possible speeds than the sabre. This is due to the plentiful low slots the ammarian ship has. The difference isn't as big between the two T3's, but I did want to bring that up since nano/overdrive fit shield amarr T3's(yeah, they're around even without the defense boost, since sniper mode is actually good on the confessor :P) will be faster than shield svipuls without sacrificing dps mods or DCU.

Anywho, I'm not sure how much minnie ships being fast has been factored in to more recent balance decisions, but it is kind of crucial if range flexibility is supposed to be a strength of projectiles - flexibility of range doesn't matter if the other guy gets to dictate range.

In real game terms it largely doesn't matter since both ships break the DPS and usefulness level that stuff like that is gravy. Svipul is great right now because it doesn't use cap, as well as tank flexibility. That might change a bunch when the other two T3's are released but it seems good right now.(Caldari also doesn't use cap, Gall will probably be around as flexible tank wise, right?)

Anywho, keep up the great work!

As an avid FW bro, I would like to see tact destroyers removed from available ships to take into small plexs. My logic follows as such, if Loki's and Tengu's (both medium sized t3 ships) can't get into mediums, why should tech 3 destroyers be allowed in smalls?




Edit: I don't mind the power of the ships as much as I do their ability to engage much weaker ships in small FW plexs.