Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hey everyone. As we mentioned on the o7 show today, we're making some balance changes to the Confessor and Svipul in our April release.
We are extremely happy that so many people are having fun with these new ships and we are committed to keeping them powerful and exciting, but we ideally want that power and excitement to mainly come from the new mode switching mechanic, and less from the base stats of the ship outclassing its competition. At the moment these ships are a little bit too strong and provide a bit too much vale for their cost. We've been listening to a lot of feedback on these ships from many players (including at Fanfest) and we're ready to make a few tweaks.

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Big thanks to everyone who has posted feedback about the first round of changes. We agree with the point that some of you were bringing up, that these first round of changes are a bit too harsh on long range weapon fits compared to short range weapon fits. A certain amount of added fitting pain for long range fits will be necessary, but long range weapon viability is a key part of the character of the tactical destroyers and it would be a shame to limit that more than absolutely necessary.

So we've come up with a second iteration of these changes, using a slightly more invasive set of adjustments. To reduce the impact of extremely high fittings while continuing to keep long range weapons competitive with short range weapons we are proposing a change to the turrets of the Confessor and Svipul. Both would lose 2 turrets (going to 4) but gain a new +50% damage role bonus to keep DPS the same. This allows us to reduce fittings significantly without harming long range fits as much, as the weapons will make a smaller percentage of the overall Powergrid and CPU consumption of the ships.

These new versions also include a mass reduction for the Svipul and a bit more speed reduction. Material requirement changes remain the same as in version one.

Confessor:

• New Role Bonus: +50% Small Energy Turret Damage
• Highslots: 6 (-1)
• Turrets: 4 (-2)
• Powergrid: 62 (-18)
• CPU: 180 (-10)
• Max Velocity: 235 (-45)
• Mass: 2,000,000kg (-400,000)
• Inertia: 2.7 (+0.55)
• Shield Recharge Time: 800s (+175s)
• Capacitor Recharge Time: 320s (+20s)

Svipul:

• New Role Bonus: +50% Small Projectile Turret Damage
• Highslots: 6 (-1)
• Turrets: 4 (-2)
• Powergrid: 59 (-19)
• CPU: 205 (-10)
• Max Velocity: 230 (-60)
• Mass: 1,500,000 (-400,000)
• Inertia: 3.5 (+0.85)
• Shield Recharge Time: 800s (+175s)
• Capacitor Recharge Time: 240s (+15s)

Material Requirements:
+1 to each of Electromechanical Interface Nexus, Fullerene Intercalated Sheets, Optimized Nano-engines, Reconfigured Subspace Calibrator, Self-Assembling Nanolattice, Warfare Computation Core

Like I said above, thanks to everyone who has participated in this feedback thread so far. We're very interested in hearing your thoughts about this second iteration of the changes.

These are really small changes, I'm not sure what sort of effect it'll have yet on fitting but none of these changes seem to gimp the ships too much, (at a glance).

much needed. thanks.

now I'll read the particulars

Much needed tweaks. Cant wait until tomorrow so I can believe them.



Still trying to balance with price huh... thought you learned that lesson..

svipul & confessor usage must be high

good +1

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Good poast, CCP Fozzie.

The metagaem will chance for the better now that these hulls won't be able to fit 10MN ABs, or at least I hope the PG reduction is enough; haven't done the math yet.



This increases the build cost by 12.3 mil ISK - But I wouldn't rush to buy up the ready hulls, as the profit margin on the T3Ds is still around 11 mln ISK, plus account for the above nerf.

P.S. They're already in 54 mil up from 37 mil in Amarr.
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A Confessor can be jammed by a Griffin - found out the hard way. Unless you're in Sharpshooter mode, of course.

So with skills, looking at around 90ish PG for both the Confessor and the Svipul?

I like it.

Unless I've been reading these things wrong, it will take longer for the shields and cap to recharge.