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FYI: Supers can use gates now.
FYI: Part of the new Sov System requires being able to move around. You can do this slowly in a heavy fleet (with capital support), or quickly in a more agile, but weaker fleet. Adapt or die.
FYI: Supers were designed to be anti-capital ships, not I-win buttons against all fleets.

The short contest duration, and the situation with the station. I am trying to figure this out and from what I can tell the best response with regards to the Halitosis link is... start subcap and capital halitosis links at the same time, so that the process starts with subcap links while capital links have time to cycle.

My question is, can the subcap links be stopped once the capital links start their second cycle? Like, is this an effective way to make a handoff from subcap to cap links.

I ask because the only problem with the capital link nerf is the run-up cycle, and after that it's what you want anyway.

I haven't tried it yet, but I'm curious what kind of tank you can keep with two triage Archons keeping themselves capped up using injects (rather than passive).

Are you sure it's as easy for attackers as you think? I see a new Halitosis brick tank Archon meta happening, possibly paired with a 750k EHP Damnation to run the initial subcap link. A station response team, basically.

Archons are defeated with caps, but my point is you've still got this barrier to victory that is a 1.05 Billion ISK ship with tons of tank.

Why not tie indexes to the vulnerability timer?
Higher indexes , shorter timer.
To benefit groups that really use their space.
If in 90% of your systems you have at least level 4 index .... you gain something more in terms of defensive measures.

Why would anyone use capitals after this patch i think is the real question.

BS gangs use Triage Carriers for support.
Enemy escalates with dreads to kill triage.
You re-escalate with supers to kill capitals...

Dreads will also be used to RF POS's.

There is a use, they just won't be used as much for capturing stations and destroying IHUBs.

If a point is contested by a subcap fleet then potentially a capital might be able to RF/steal the command point whilst still able to tank the dps on grid where smaller ships don't have enough of a local tank to and explode before their first cycle is complete.
edit: I also think marauders are suitable for this task where the fleet sizes are smaller.

Also dropping caps in (via cyno or just through local gates) to attain grid dominance and enable a capture is still a strategic use of caps...except you'll need at least 5 cap fleets if you want to be able to show up at every command point fight for one structure.

But then I recall what Sion wrote about social structures and I am

In none of those situations would you choose to drop caps over dropping more ishtars. Because apha'ing fleets is still very possible and triage carrier would die eventually.


Also bombers>dreads for pos

Bubbles shut off MWD's?

News to me.

m8