Player Features and Ideas Discussion

stupid as intended..

They were looking for gank. Ran away of our 2 cruisers. Then we follow them to the next system. They ran again. As much as i like Recons i have to say, i dont like this feature.

How is it any different if they had a Falcon? Or any other cloaked ship?

He's using a Curse and a Dragoon. Presumably these poor souls are warping in thinking they will be fighting just a Dragoon. When they land, there is also a Curse there. Still not much different if he had any other cloaked ship present.

As for the lack of decloaking delay - he could achieve the same effect by decloaking the cloaky as soon as you appear on close d-scan. By the time you land, the cloaking delay would be gone.

FW already has a major problem of people rarely bringing out anything larger than frigs/dessies on repeat, and this sort of thing just really hammers it more securely in that novices and smalls look more appealing with the added fact of these recons can't enter. Sad to see it be this way, and now staying this way a while longer is even sadder.

Perhaps not very different in this case, I guess any cloaked one could take a cheap fitted t1 cruiser trying to solo a FW plex.

VERY different when talking about Wspace. Major differences are:

If you dscan like a maniac (as you should) you can always catch the cloakies when entering the system, at the split second they decloak-recloak at the entrance and avoid the fight alltogether.

Cloaked recons do not have the same combat potential as their dscan immune cousins and are not a real match for any sleeper fitted T3 cruiser. Or maybe they are a match when skillfuly used but you wouldn't call it an easy kill.
So, even when you risk taking on an anomaly outside of the entrances scan range you just took the risk of fighting the occasional Pilgrim who was brave enough to take you on. In most cases and with the help of sleeper site mechanics, I would manage to blow
up these brave souls even before their reinforcements could land on site.

Note of interest : The cloaked ones come first in an attempt to catch me unawares, if they all try to land on me at once d-scan will inform me of it. Well, NOT ANYMORE since we can now have whole fleets of dscan immune "bastards" (:P) coming and going as they please and ganking people silly.

I said it before and I'll say it again (and again and again) : This stupidly unfair immunity does not even give people (targets) a chance to defend themselves. I am not the kind of person to nag in the forums about this and that, but this is an exception.
It will kill solo plexing and smalltime WH activity, and unless thats what is intended please consider taking it back, we will all agree it was a bad dream of sorts.

From the posted KMs, CCP can conclude that the rebalancing is a complete success! Prior to proteus you hardly see any Combat Recons. You see them much more often nowadays. Soon pilots will learn about it and there will be glorious combat recons loss mails. I know at least one of our corpmates already lost his combat recon.

GJ CCP! Loves the Recon rebalance..

Dont worry it wont take long for CCP to not allow Recons into medium Plex's........ There for applying another stupid exception to cover up their poor decision.

36. Posting of kill reports outside of the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited.

ISDs are from what I've seen a little bit flexible and tolerant on this rule. But if you turn this thread into a kill report thread, I guarantee bad things will happen.

This is not in any way an endorsement of the d-scan immunity of Combat Recons. I'm rather neutral on it tbh.

Personnaly i use scouts so since update i just kill one curse, no loose. I ask my corpmates to never go in med plex already open that did'nt been scout. But it's so boring that for now i'm back playing to CK2.. will see later.

Anyway FW 's local is full of "lol hookbill in med with 2 suspect in local", as intended people avoid fight, what a good mechanic..