Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Thats the smarmiest argument for a bait and switch scam ive heard today.

CCP builds a game then changes a core rule and fanboys expect people not to question it lol.

Ok, wat?

I'm not saying anything like that at all. The fact that you so strongly resist what I'm saying (and what CCP is doing to one ship class in introducing a mechanic that is measurable weaker than the existing mechainc of covert ops cloaks) demonstrates a deep investment in the status quo.

You claming that other posters beliefs are invalid due to their killboard stats (ie 'how succesful are you IN THE CURRENT STATUS QOU') is just another indicator lol.

Change happens. Not all of it is good, and ALL change has (good and bad) unintended consequneces. I generally don't like change. In this case, the change in question will add value to an underused ship class while only negatively affecting a very small subset of people who don't want to adapt (the people who adapt, like those who will incorporate scan probe launchers on their ships, will be fine).

That means that on-balance, most of the nay saying is just knee-jerk reactionary BS and CCP is safe (this time) to ignore it.

But recons that can warp in to a plex and create a 180km killzone dont kill new guys?, more than that they come with far less warning.

Pretty sure this is a magnification of your objection to kiting so ill assume you agree with me about ninja recons.

A dual asb stealth bomber cannot scram anyone from 30km off the warp in where it would have to be to be able to cloak. So no, but do continue with your sage input.

As for cov ops cloak i can only assure you it is not even close to as strong as dscan immunity will be.

What on earth is wrong with being hunted? That's a great thing, it will let people kill the freaking faction warfare farmers for once since their d-scan bots won't detect combat recons.

I personally suggest Elite Dangerous instead.

Then bookmark this page. if that happens i'll come back here and say I was wrong.

Will you and the other take the same challenge? Sidenote, I offered the same challenge to the people in the Faction BS and Pirate ship reblance threads. Not.a.single.one has shown up to admit they were wrong yet, so i do't hold much hope here either.

They'll have to make some HEFTY changes to the multiplayer aspect of the game before I can justify spending money on it.

Yup, I'll gladly eat crow if FW lowsec space doesn't turn into Combat Recons Online. I doubt it will expand beyond that a hell of a lot cuz HACs, BS's, and CAPs will still be better for structure fights. I have no idea about WH's as I've only just started exploring them myself.

Just like people complaining about incarna were just pleading for ccp to not add value to the game.

The major problem here is you are apologising for ccp decisions in a discussion thread. There really isnt any problem with you putting your opinion forwards about liking it. Many people have done so and peaced out of the thread.

The problem is that you seem to want to give feedback on other peoples feedback which makes you come off as a fan boy. You start an argument with someone then complain that they are arguing.

Its pretty sad but standard on most forums today.

And as i have already said, i will take advantage of these mechanics to the maximum. Exactly like i do with all other mechanics. Perhaps you capacity in game or imagination isnt as developed as mine but i can see this leading to a lot of pointless effortless ganks on a small pvp scale and a lot of fights are gonna come down to recon escalations if they have time to escalate at all.

Now, what would be better than misrepresenting what i am saying in yet another post, is you commenting here about how whatever changes ccp make you are there, a willing soldier, rain or shine ready to accept even the worst changes in mechanics and we can all get on with it :)